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‘Knight Rider’ Premiere Set; Arnett to Voice KITT

December 12, 2007 11:22 AM

KITTNBC has set Feb. 17 as the premiere date for its two-hour “Knight Rider” revamp and announced that Will Arnett (“Arrested Development”) will provide the voice of the new KITT car. NBC also has released official images of the crime-fighting super-vehicle (thankfully, NBC’s latest product placement-mobile is a Ford Mustang, not a Nissan Rogue).

The movie stars Justin Bruening (“Cold Case”), Deanna Russo (“NCIS”), Sydney Tamiia Poitier (“Grindhouse”) and Bruce Davison (“Close to Home”). Yes, David Hasselhoff will make a cameo in his original role of Michael Knight. He’s billed in the press release as a “Special Guest Star,” an ‘80s-rific term.

The new KITT car (more pics here) will have some “Transformers”-like shape-shifting abilities (the story’s scientific explanation: “nanotechnology”). Thus, three cars will be used: The “KITT Hero” (a Ford Mustang Shelby GT500KR playing the “everyday Hero car”), the “KITT Attack” (a high-speed version of the Hero car) and a “KITT Remote” (a driverless version). Dave Bartis (“The O.C.”) and Doug Liman (“The Bourne Identity”) serve as executive producers.

NBC has ordered “Rider” as a stand-alone movie. The network will gauge viewer reaction to the event and decide whether to order a full “Rider” series. Haunting this plan: “Bionic Woman”—NBC’s other revamp of a campy action series that premiered this season.

If “Bionic” was judged solely on its towering premiere numbers, heavily populated by the curious and nostalgic, the network would have thought it had a hit on its hands. Then again, one assumes (always dangerous, but let’s go with it) that NBC has learned a thing or two from its unique “Bionic” production troubles.

Here’s the “Rider” movie’s plot summary from the release: “Sarah Graiman (Russo) is a 24-year-old Ph.D. candidate at Stanford University, following in her genius father Charles’ (Davison) footsteps. But when men attempt to abduct her, Sarah receives a mysterious call from KITT warning her that he’s a creation of Charles, who also invented the first KITT 25 years ago—and that her father is in serious danger. Sarah and KITT track down her best friend from childhood, Mike Tracer (Bruening), a 23-year-old ex-Army Ranger, whom Sarah hasn’t seen since he left home at 18. Having served in Iraq, Mike is now jaded and lost and initially resistant. Eventually he agrees to help Sarah and the two set out to discover who’s behind the attempt to procure KITT and find Charles.”

A bitter Iraq War veteran behind the wheel of KITT? Heck, that dialogue writes itself: “If only we had some shape-shifting Ford Mustangs in Fallujah, the insurgents would have never wiped out my unit.”

UPDATE: A video clip from the press unveiling of NBC's new "Knight Rider" car:

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Comments (327)

Batman:

I hope it doesn't snow otherwise that mustang won't be going far

Guardian :

Hollywood didn't learn it's lesson with Lions For Lambs and Redacted, that the rest of the country doesn't hate the troops.

It's typical left wing rhetoric; it's not enought that the war is bad, it's not enough that America is bad, the troops have to be bad too.

I hope NBC hemorages big money over this pig and the rest of their TV season, enough that the networks bleed out and die.

Natalie:

If this becomes a series, I hope it does better than Bionic Woman. I used to watch the show growing up and was seriously disappointed by the remake. Good luck Bartis and Liman!

DaveP.:

Tell me again why the writer's strike is bad? When enemies of my country can get their best propaganda right here in the USA, why should I care if the producers of that propaganda are starving or getting evicted from their homes...

T. Drago:

Of course, the hero HAS to be "a bitter Iraq war veteran". It sounds just like after Viet Nam. Every vet on TV was portrayed as a deranged, drug addicted, baby killer just waiting to wreak havoc on the peaceful anti war citizens back home. Some things never change. It's no wonder the Nothing But Clinton network is losing it's butt in the ratings.

Reninaldi:

It is offical the Networks have way to much money and apparently need to waste a bunch. Hasselhof should go back to Germany where he's not a joke.

kevin67:

"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you don't have a heart. If you're 30 and not a Conservative, you don't have a brain."

ss:

That will kill the Mustang! How fricking stupid!!

PubliusJr:

Another "disturbed vet" story?

Have the people writing these things noticed the TOTAL absence of success for all of the anti-Iraq films this year? Maybe if they would check their ideology and activism at the door, they would have a real hit. A TV show is a tool for keeping rear ends in seats during commercials, not a platform for your political message.

NBCEXEC:

NBC are Anti American Communist Scumbags who don't deserve our viewership.

NotSnowedinPortland:

this is punishment for nobody giving a crap that the writers were out on strike. next it'll be a remake of Gomer Pile.
Dose anybody actually watch tv any more or is it just for background noise?

Denny:

Am I the only one out here who likes the shows BUT HATES THE COMMERCIALS EVERY 5 MINUTES!!!!
DUH!!! It ain't the shows Guys, it's the incessant blaring commercials that kill the shows before they can get going!!

NBCEXEC:

Commercials don't bother me, I download all my TV shows.

ss:

Coming from an Iraq war vet, we are all deranged...

I wish al qaeda would attack Hollywood and all of this pop culture bs, it would do us all some good.

Phil K:

Hey-
I think all these conservatives need to chill out. Keep in mind that this "bitter Iraq war veteran" is not the villain of the piece, he's the hero. You would have a valid point if he were the bad guy.
Also, who's to say he isn't jaded because he's made at the people who DIDN'T support the war and that the people let him down? That would cut the other way.
No one says you have to agree completely with the hero to enjoy the show. I don't approve of James Bond sleeping around orBatman dangling crooks from rooftops, but I still enjoy both characters and recognize the good they do.
Anyway, I think you should just enjoy the show and see if it's any good rather than jump the gun.
Of course, you can and should write in to the network if it gets too political. I'm betting Iraq will never be mentioned again.

Chris:

I love how the article just matter-of-factly states "Having served in Iraq, Mike is now jaded", as if it's just a foregone conclusion that any poor sap subjected to "Bush's war" is coming home bitter and lost.

Of course (and correct me if I'm wrong) while we certainly took casualties in Fallujah, I don't recall any reports of entire "units" being wiped out by insurgents. Not that it surprises me that the guy who wrote this article would think that...

Lib_rarian:

Where did all this embittered conservative rhetoric come from? It's not anti-patriotic to create a story where an Iraqui war vet is embittered. Some vets are embittered. I'm going to wait and see if NBC can make this work better than Bionic Woman before I pass judgment. Besides, Will Arnett is hilarious.

Highspeed2:

So, the "ex-Army Ranger" is 23 years old? Let's assume he joined the Army at 18. Deduct 1 year of time for Ranger school, Airborne school, Basic Training, AIT, and any other schools. Further deduct another year for downtime and various garrison and administrative crap that is typical in the Army. So, the butt kickin' ex-Ranger has about 36 months of actual military experience at most, assuming he left the Army today.

The point being: why does NBC think their action hero should be a guy that has only been legally purchasing beer for 2 years? Get somebody older!

Michael:

How do you people go from "jaded" Iraq vet to:
"hating the troops," "anti-american," "disturbed vet," "enemy propoganda..".. talk about overreacting...

If I served in a war orchestrated by a bunch of guys who did everything they could to avoid serving their countries...

If I served in a war based on intelligence that has since been proven to be worth the toilet paper it was smuggled out of iraq on...

If I served in a war that was conducted as ineptly as possible ("mistakes happen".. you know like disbanding the army, debathifying the government, not going in with enough troops, not supplying the few troops sent in)..

I'm thinking "jaded" would be a pretty appropriate way to describe me when I returned, and I think I'd have good reason to be that way.

Ed:

The writers in the writer's guild are such a bunch of crap if this is the best they can do for a story, revamping a twenty year old TV series... they don't deserve to get paid any more for subjecting us to all th lousy crap on TV

Megatron:

How lame, more masturbation for Liberals. Give it up! That is why NBC is paying sponsers back right now.

CoCo Lopez:

Yeah, nobody ever comes back from war bitter. While we all sit around here picking our noses and putting stickers on our cars, these guys are out there getting blown up. When they come back to visit and realize nobody is touched by this war beyond waving a flag when appropriate or posting about a stupid television show, they're not pissed. They are giving up years and you're sitting here acting like your "support" is somehow doing them a favor. JUST MAKE SURE YOU FUND THEIR SERVICES WHEN THEY COME HOME. The VA is still a joke and we're not taking care of our warriors. Wave the flag all you want, but put some effort into it!

Megatron:

Sponsors that is.

chicken hawk:

Why is it that all you yanks think you're soldiers are high and mighty - take a peak at the Iraq civillian death toll, excess of 600,000 - thats right, killed for oil and lies. I say if you're dumb enough to join the army, then you're good enough to die. (and btw, I live in a perfectly free and safe country, where we dont need "protection" from terrorist, instead of murdering them, we aid them with food and education - funny how that works huh?)

MustangLover:

What next??? A Gilligans Island remake? I'll watch just to see the Stang...

CoCo Lopez:

Chickenhawk,

While I agree that this war was built on lies, the troops have nothing to do with that. So please stop tossing GIs under the bus. Your use of the word yanks is peculiar... if you're a subject of the crown (Aussie, Canadian, British) then you too are part of this.

Whipsnard Q Bimblemann, III, Esq.:

A remake of another show? Wow, I can't wait to see......Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Zzzzzzzzzz. Zzzzzzzz...

david:

" Guardian :

Hollywood didn't learn it's lesson with Lions For Lambs and Redacted, that the rest of the country doesn't hate the troops.

It's typical left wing rhetoric; it's not enought that the war is bad, it's not enough that America is bad, the troops have to be bad too.

I hope NBC hemorages big money over this pig and the rest of their TV season, enough that the networks bleed out and die.
"
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Hey Guardian, I can tell you got here via Drudgereport. Guess what, nobody blames the troops.
It is a fiction generated by your buddies like Drudge, Bill O'Reilly and the rest of those jerks.

What people are tired of is the war. They are tired of seeing it, hearing about it, wondering what the point is etc... This is why these current crops of movies are doing so poorly. EVERYONE knows that the war was based on a lie. They know it is unjustified and disgusting the way the Bush Admin. does not listen to the people when it comes to this godforsaken war. Why do you think the Dems got in office? Not that they are doing anything to help. I pray that Ron Paul gets in and helps straighten this mess out.

Guardian, you can go on believing what you want but we ALL know the truth. Even you.

sawdust:

What a slippery slope the Batman movie did create....Why does EVERYTHING have to be a remake these days? Songs, TV shows, Movies....I am so sick of remakes it isn't funny. What's next Hart Castle & McCormick? Simon & Simon?

I'm sure I will watch at least the first 15 minutes of this piece of garbage just to see how bad it really is before I move on to something else...so typical. I think I'm to the point were all I watch is "The Soup" - at least there I can get all my comedy relief in 30 minutes without having to actually watch any of this crap.

I would really like to see a remake of The Fall Guy...or TJ Hooker. That would be sweet.

Gaurdian2:

I hope the movie shows people spitting on this Iraq vet guy.These baby rapers deserve our anger and disgust.Rudy in '08'

Thurston Last:

Personally speaking, I'm kind of sick of all these couch-ridden chickenhawks who are of age supporting the war but aren't fighting in it. I never understood why people think that those who don't support the war don't support the soldiers. Wonder which one of those radio chickenhawks keep spoonfeeding that lie.

Regardless, not really a fan of all these show remakes. Yeah, I get people are upset that the protagonist is a jaded vet (some are even so upset that the idea of a jaded veteran of the Iraq War is conceivable, feeling that such an individual doesn't really exist), but that's not where my anger comes from. Hell, that might just be a small part of the character's development, not a constant theme (I doubt we'll see Mike Tracer, in episode five in the third season, still whining about losing friends in the war and being frustrated about it). The original Knight Rider wasn't exactly the greatest of shows, but it worked for its time. But it's a failed concept.

Where's my proof of that theory? Well, Universal tried to remake Knight Rider twice before. The first remake was the Knight Rider 2000 telefilm. The second was the Team Knight Rider series. Both failed miserably. Now, I'm not sure if the new TV movie would work, and I'm hoping the producers does find moderate success, if not for a series, then perhaps a series of made-for-TV movies. But the franchise is a one-note one anyway, and the novelty wears thin over time.

Nick in Virginia:

Have you seen "Boston Legal" recently? Last night's episode was nothing but non-stop Bush-Bashing for the entire episode. Howard Dean must be loving all this anti-GOP publicity, without having to pay a penny from the DNC treasury. As long as the new "Knight Rider" doesn't come out like "Boston Legal", the "jaded Iraq Vet" angle MIGHT be OK, but if they don't chill a bit, it will be a flop.

Of course, I still watch Boston Legal, because William Shatner and James Spader are fantastic in their roles as pompous a--holes. I wouldn't miss that for the world.

Mike from Chicago:

To Michael: You would come back embittered? IF any of the previously said things you said were true.

So do you want to tell me why the vets coming back do not share this "feeling" you would feel if you returned from a war that you say was propagated on a bunch of lies and a warmonger.

C'mon, listen to the troops who come back after their 1st 2nd and 3rd tours in IRAQ and you'll find what you "say" is not true and that in fact, the troops, are tired of your hatred of them and America.

Wait until 2008, you'll see that all of the hatred from Democrats will only lose your seats in Congress.

Peg C.:

Wow, this sounded vaguely amusing until I got to the jaded Iraq vet part.

They lost me before they had me. Shame!

JPL:

Heck, I'm an embittered Iraq War vet. But, I'm bitter because I'm tired of people saying they support us while doing everything possible to make us fail. I'm especially bitter when people who say they only care about our welfare treat us with kid gloves like we're some kind of head-case just for having been in Iraq. People, wake up. It's really not that bad over there. We're not storming Normandy or patrolling the jungles of Veitnam. We go on patrol and then go back to our hooch and play some X-Box and eat Pringles. Sure, our friends get blown up now and again, and we get stressed when we engage in combat. But the only thing to make us feel "jaded and lost" are the imbeciles who do their level best to make us feel that way.

Venger:

if chicken hawk ever looked into the eyes of an arabic gentleman that wanted to kill him and his family simply because he was American and probably Christian, maybe he wouldn't want to feed and educate them. Maybe he would prevent the murder of his family by taking the ability of the arabic gentleman to murder away by any means necessary. Common sense dictates that you cannot do this with flowers and kindness if the other guy is aiming a rifle in your general direction.

Al Cervek:

A 24 year old Stanford PHD student? A little young?

sawdust:

...and I am sick and tired of reading a series of comments about, say, a new upcoming TV show for example, and it turning into a political argument about Iraq. puke.

You (as am I) are all uniformed armchair quarter backs that don't know anything firsthand. No one is going to magically convince another through the art of political discussion (or insults) to change their views.

Have your opinion and keep it to yourself, the only effectual thing any of us can do about it is vote and half the people bitching can't even do that. Get off your frigging soap boxes - cause we're all sick of hearing the same crap. Bitch with your ballot and and shut up or just shut up.

Tom Barberi:

Not all involved have jaded views of the war. Just listen to those battle hardened vets Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Wolfiwitz, Bremmer, Rove and the little clam Scooter.

Hey morons try watching something besides FOX Noise!

John:

How about a disgruntled former factory worker who loses his job because his company was bought and sold 20 times and ended up in China? The car he rides is a Kia that has a Mexican accent and he soon discovers he was the love child of David Hasselhoff and the voice of "Kitt". Confused, he fights his way thru idiotic plots each week just like all the other trash that passes for TV these days. WHO CARES?

Tom W.:

I'm still amazed at the utter uniformity of expression of the antiwar crowd. It's nothing but one bumper-sticker slogan after another.

"Chickenhawk blah blah lies blah blah 600,000 dead for oil blah blah get off the couch blah blah blah fought as ineptly as possible blah blah blahbbity blah."

It's as though there's one half-informed pissed-off twenty-two-year old writing the dialog for half the world now.

What these cretins don't know is that Operation Iraqi Freedom is the most successfully fought major war we've ever conducted. There have been no screw ups on the order of Operation Market Garden, or the Battle of the Bulge, or Iwo Jima, or the Tet Offensive, and so on.

No, these dopes just regurgitate the propaganda they've been spoon fed by their masters, and they think they're being incisive.

Hilarious.

Scott:

Yay!!!!!!!
Make a series out of it! I miss Knight Rider!!!!!!!
(Child of the 80s)
:)

Rick:

Why did they have to remake this? I think Knight Rider was fine where it was. Why does he have to be a jaded Iraq War vet? Does the show need edge? Why can't he be the same character? Why does he need that backdrop? Why is he jaded? Why couldn't he be an average guy who is normal and isn't jaded by something? Why? Why? Why?

I want to know why.

Show's going to bomb.

Chief Oddball:

Two things:

1. Where is KITT's "Cylon eye" scanner light?
2. Black stripes on a black car? I hope that's only for the publicity photos.
3. Justin Bruening looks like a good Michael Knight. Er, Tracer.
4. Would have preferred the new Camaro instead of the Mustang, but that's down to taste (and would have been prohibitively expensive, being a prototype vehicle).

I'm a huge Knight Rider fan from way back, so I won't prejudge anything else.

DaveP.:

Thurston Last: Thanks for supporting a military junta in America. The truly ironic thing is that you probably are a registered Democrat, and will be voting for a choice of two candidates neither one of which ever served... but this irony will be lost on you, as your mind is too narrow.

Tom B>_ When you can name me ONE justification for the Iraq War that Bush said THAT BOTH CLINTONS AND THE WHOLE DNC DIDN'T, you can complain about "propaganda". Until then, look up the concept of "memory hole".


JPL- Thanks for your service, sir.

Chief Oddball:

Wow, two things turned into four things. That's what happens when your mouth gets ahead of your brain. Carry on kids.

Bill:

John, at first I thought you were talking about "Gung Ho", that Micheal Keaton movie from 86. It could be like Gung Ho meets Rambo meets Knight Rider

ArcherB:

Here are the facts. The majority of the troops support our actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. These same troops are the ones that hate people like Michael Moore and Sean Penn. These are the same troops that despise the media echo the enemy's propaganda and lies (like 600,000 dead and so on). So, in the real world, if a former soldier is "jaded", it's not at the administration, but toward the media outlets like NBC.

Here is the rub. NBC can not go out and make a soldier the bad guy. These guys are viewed as heroes in America, and rightfully so, and making a soldier the bad guy would be ratings suicide for NBC. So they make the hero bitter about the war. This serves two purposes. First, it subliminally tells the public that it is OK to be a patriot and be against the war. Second, it turns our soldiers into tragic heroes, victims of "Bush's war". Not only is this dishonest, but it is blatant propaganda directly from America's left and America's enemies.

Disclaimer: I served and I support both wars.

Joe:

a previous poster wrote:
"Also, who's to say he isn't jaded because he's made at the people who DIDN'T support the war and that the people let him down? That would cut the other way."

If THAT'S the case, I'll eat the chair I'm sitting in! You KNOW that's NOT going to be the case!

Commodore:

The jaded vet is pretty much standard practice in Hollywood today.

Don't portray soldiers as racist rednecks with guns. Don't attack them. People won't buy that.

Instead, attack the institutions they serve. Question the reasons for their sacrifice.

Above all, portray them as victims, betrayed by their corrupt government. Full of PTSD and doubt about the goodness of their country.

Under no circumstances do you portray them as heroic, their deeds as righteous. Their cause just.

LeRoy :

I actually liked the Knight-Rider series....but then, I'm 40 ;-p

Any ways, before folks go off on the whole "embittered" thing; I do have to speak as a vet.....non-combat; who's circle of friends consists mostly of Iraq war vets....first gulf and second.

Yes...."embittered" could describe several of them, but not in the way you might think. Some from the rhetoric from our government folks against the war....some from seeing nothing but the bad news making it to the standard media sources.....but, most of the ones I know are more "embittered" from a lack of understanding when they get back....they've been through some serious stuff folks.... and to a man, or woman (from those I know or have met) believe in what they did. As do I.

Just remember when you get a good nights sleep; others live with the nightmares so you won't have to.

Any ways, I'll likely watch the premeire if I remember to.....I quit watching tv in general about 10 years ago.....but, sort of want to see this one.

Then I'll decide, for myself, whether to watch any of the series later on...... Why don't you folks do the same ;-)

Jim:

Thurston Last: "Personally speaking, I'm kind of sick of all these couch-ridden chickenhawks who are of age supporting the war but aren't fighting in it. I never understood why people think that those who don't support the war don't support the soldiers. Wonder which one of those radio chickenhawks keep spoonfeeding that lie."

And I am personally sick of those who say they want to be protected from criminals, but never joined the police force; or who want someone to put out their house fire, but never became a firefighter; or who want to eat vegatables, but never farmed; or who want to ride the bus, but never worked as bus drivers; or who want to watch sports but never played in the NFL; well you get the picture. It's a stupid and illogical argument.

Jim:

Thurston Last: "Personally speaking, I'm kind of sick of all these couch-ridden chickenhawks who are of age supporting the war but aren't fighting in it. I never understood why people think that those who don't support the war don't support the soldiers. Wonder which one of those radio chickenhawks keep spoonfeeding that lie."

And I am personally sick of those who say they want to be protected from criminals, but never joined the police force; or who want someone to put out their house fire, but never became a firefighter; or who want to eat vegatables, but never farmed; or who want to ride the bus, but never worked as bus drivers; or who want to watch sports but never played in the NFL; well you get the picture. It's a stupid and illogical argument.

Freedom Vet:

Looks like a lot of you are writing the same talking points from your favorite Anti-Freedom, Anti-America organizations. It's disingenuous & is apparent the political views you've chosen have blinded you from realities of situations. It's a TV show & this character's background will be given all of 5 seconds time. If you can't deal with the actualities and consequences of people who have faced war but you support war - you're nothing more than a blowhard war monger & should be signed up immediately to give you a dose of reality.

BTW "Guardian" - Redacted didn't fare well at the box-office because it was a poorly made & marketed film; Lions for lambs had little to do with soldiers - the film was about an interview, "behind the scenes" look at political maneuvering. Your screen handle is apropos - you've attempted to guard (shield/hide) from truth by putting out lies.

CherDash:

sawdust: ...and I am sick and tired of reading a series of comments about, say, a new upcoming TV show for example, and it turning into a political argument about Iraq. puke.

You (as am I) are all uniformed armchair quarter backs that don't know anything firsthand. No one is going to magically convince another through the art of political discussion (or insults) to change their views.

Have your opinion and keep it to yourself, the only effectual thing any of us can do about it is vote and half the people bitching can't even do that. Get off your frigging soap boxes - cause we're all sick of hearing the same crap. Bitch with your ballot and and shut up or just shut up.

Posted by sawdust | December 12, 2007 1:59 PM
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I am going to write the networks and tell them just that: shut up. That is exactly why I don't watch network TV any more, they won't shut up about their political opinions and just entertain me.

Sam:

NBC just HAD to put a lefty political spin on what should have been a purely escapist show. If I were going to cave and watch anything on that network it would have been giving this show a chance but forget that now.

Guardian:

Hey Phil K, the bitter Iraq vet is the same template the media and Hollyweird amplified from the Jane Fonda funded "Winetr Soldier Investigation" that put the image of every Vietnam vet as a village burning, baby killing psycho into the American consciousness.

That smear came from John Kerry's Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) and the same pukes that ran it took some Iraq Veterans under their wing, mentored and modelled them after the VVAW, calleing themselves the Iraq Veterans Against the War.

And guess what, the IVAW is out to smear this generation of military the way the VVAW was smeared, their valor trashed and honor stolen.

Watch for the IVAW ads in January, probably the NY Times no less. Their are out to smear not only our troops in Iraq, but those in Afghanistan too.

Anyone who thinks the Vietnam Vets got a bad deal, that they were not treated right, then stand up for this generation and don't let it happen. Expose the IVAW for the NeoJohns, the Kerry Wannabes that they are.

j Corley:

Magnum P.I. was a war veteran character. They (partially) did this already. Only selleck didn't need the technology gimmick, just good simple story lines, comraderie, humor and some mystery.

Sure to bomb.

Z1975SS:

TOMW:

Right on. Except we actually won the Tet offensive, contrary to Cronkite's claims.

You also forgot to mention Halliburton 60 or so times in your impression.

Well, I'm off to spend my 'blood for oil' royalty check that all us Chickenhawks have been receiving off of the back of the oppressed Iraqi populace.

Algernon:

Man, anything will be better than Mr. Baywatch Bohunk. KITT was always the star of the show and let's hope it's the same in this go-around. At least they picked a kickass car. I've said for a long time that Hollywood should do a remake of Bullitt with the new Mustang. Maybe they can bring B.A. Baracus in for a cameo or two, waxing the Rustang Mufftang with TR3.

V-man:

CoCo Lopez:

Yeah, nobody ever comes back from war bitter. While we all sit around here picking our noses and putting stickers on our cars, these guys are out there getting blown up. When they come back to visit and realize nobody is touched by this war beyond waving a flag when appropriate or posting about a stupid television show, they're not pissed. They are giving up years and you're sitting here acting like your "support" is somehow doing them a favor. JUST MAKE SURE YOU FUND THEIR SERVICES WHEN THEY COME HOME. The VA is still a joke and we're not taking care of our warriors. Wave the flag all you want, but put some effort into it!

V-man:

CoCo Lopez:

Yeah, nobody ever comes back from war bitter. While we all sit around here picking our noses and putting stickers on our cars, these guys are out there getting blown up. When they come back to visit and realize nobody is touched by this war beyond waving a flag when appropriate or posting about a stupid television show, they're not pissed. They are giving up years and you're sitting here acting like your "support" is somehow doing them a favor. JUST MAKE SURE YOU FUND THEIR SERVICES WHEN THEY COME HOME. The VA is still a joke and we're not taking care of our warriors. Wave the flag all you want, but put some effort into it!

Amen CoCo Lopez. AMEN.

Algernon:

Actually they could do a good job with this if they make the stories cool and keep it light, without to much liberal hollywood preachiness. Concentrate on the story, the car, the girls and the fantasy and leave the sermons at the door, and it'll be a success.

ArcherB:

Re: Thurston Last
You said:
"I never understood why people think that those who don't support the war don't support the soldiers. Wonder which one of those radio chickenhawks keep spoonfeeding that lie."

I'd go a bit further and say that those that don't support the war are supporting our enemies.
Allow me to quote you something:
"If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other."

It was said by George Orwell during WWII. Not much has changed since then as history has a way of repeating itself. You see, the reasoning is that if you do something like block military shipments from leaving a port in Seattle, you are doing the work of the enemy. What is the difference between blocking a shipment and blowing it up? The end result is the same. Those that want the "troops home NOW" share a common goal with Al Qaeda. Trust me, they want our troops home more than you do.

The entire thing can be found by googling "Pacifism and the War" (with quotes).

Oh, and I served, so you can take your chickenhawk BS and blow it out your... well, you get the idea. Better yet, why don't you go call a soldier that and see what happens. After all, they overwhelmingly voted for Bush (75% Bush to about 17% Kerry). We should all should support the troops AND their mission so they can complete it and get home safely.

CoCo Lopez:

I go to Walter Reed a lot. Bitter is not what I see, so take your moonbat rhetoric and shove it.

You clowns say things like "Money for Wounded, Not for War' yet you guys don't pay your fair share.

What money? Tax money! That's what you're talking about there. And all the big "anti-war" groups are 501(3)(c) tax exempt. They pay no taxes, their contributors get a tax credit.

Those groups are NOT anti-war, they ARE anti-America.

Don't have the space here, but look at the largest "peace group" ANSWER. Here's the people behind it, pslweb dot org

Say Che....Click on "Education" and the URL for that page ends in Marxism101

There and at the internationalanswer dot org website you can buy yourself yor your favorite commie a Che shirt. Personally, I wear a shirt that says, "Che Killed People You Trendy Bastard".

I hear the car is a conservative.

I hear the car is a conservative.

Tim:

The people who bash the troops and the people who support the war ARE un-patriotic. That's right you socialist pinko lefties, I said it. And by the way, when ever you see Bush's approval ratings about the war from the people in his own party so low, it doesn't mean we disapprove of the war, it means we don't think he's doing enough!

River Veteran:

To: Chicken Hawk... you stated that" btw, I live in a perfectly free and safe country, where we dont need "protection" from terrorist, instead of murdering them, we aid them with food and education - funny how that works huh?)" Whats funny you don't mention the name of the "Safe" country You live in...... because u know your statement is UNTRUE.....and you stated " Why is it that all you yanks think you're soldiers are high and mighty"..YES...our troops are High and Mighty.. your "SAFE" country is probably safe because of OUR high and mighty soldiers.

Algernon:

To Editor:

What they've gotta learn and hold on to for a story like this is to keep the action rolling and make it broad-based appeal without getting too deep into the epidemic of Hollywood preachiness. The first time KITT asks whether or not he should get a hybrid power supply, the show's OVER. These guys have a lot to study from the Dukes of Hazzard, which was a *great* fantasy show. I hope they don't try to "make it too real" either liberal or conservative. Concentrate on the fun of the show and have fun with it. That's what it's about. It'll succeed if they do that.

Hector:

That last post was from me to CoCo Lopez.

Hey V-man, you can take your crap rhetoric and shove it too.

I'm sure you've been devoted to seeing that the vets get a fair shake all your life. Yeah, and pigs fly.

You clowns are just playing Saul Alinsky's Rule for Radicals with those rants. The idea is make the other side live up to their belief systems.

Sorry, know what you're doing and it's bogus.

When the media isn't watching, you clowns go back to trashing soldiers, even dead soldiers.

JEDIKNIGHT:

Well, ONCE MORE modern day America and Hollywood admit their LACK of creativity, and will remake something good from the past. Pitiful idiots can't think of their own stuff.

Knightrider was a great show and it was on the air at a time when kid's heroes were noble, brave, and true Americans and gentleman.

And the new driver will be an ex war-vet, not as if the producers have a political agenda. Pro-war and anti-war are both positions that Americans may have, but don't peddle it via TV shows.

America is now a nation of loser hip-hop listening-cell phone-blackberry toting humanoids who have NO attention span whatsoever. Watch them in airports and malls...empty looks in their eyes, malcontent expressions on thier desperate faces.

Modern day America has NOTHING to do with the old characters of the Fonz, Micheal Knight, Superman, etc.

It's a nation od deadbeat dads, corporate crooks, and a bunch of morons without common sense who can't even manage their finances unless the government steps in to save their mortgages for them.

River Veteran:

To: Jim.....when did you serve? You don't get it... when you support someone in govt. that wishes us to retreat and publically states that "the war is lost"... ummm hello McFly but that is NOT supporting the troops. BTW... I did 9 months in Afghanistan and been to Iraq twice. I still have a brother, brother-in-law, and sister still over there...so STFU

C Carter:

How many of you pro war types here have been to war? I happen to be a veteran of this war, I am conservative, and I am very against this war. America needs our attention, not the Middle East. If you havent been to war and are all for it, please think, how long would you be happy with a foreign army that had disposed of your dictator and didnt leave? What would you do if China had their navy off our coast, their fighter jets in our skies, and you had to go through a checkpoint manned by Chinese soldiers everyday on your way to work?
War isnt a left versus right issue. War is hell.

Original was a GM Pontiac. Ford = waste of time. This show will be as useless as Bionic woman. America is so stupid. Why don't you make a show about the coming end of the US as we know it. It's coming!

Warren:

[i]Terrorists[/i] wouldn't have wiped out your unit, you mean.

River Veteran:

ArcherB....good post

TB:

NBC must REALLY like 4th place.

Get ready for "Deal Or No Deal" 7 nights a week!

Jay:

Just another reason to boycott NBC and Ford.

Algernon:

Hey all you guys debating Chickenhawks versus Veterans:

Shove off. This show was always about having a good time, the battle of good vs. evil and not really related to contemporary events. If they want to have a success with it, they'll follow that formula. The world needs a break from everyone's politics. Have fun with the show, with lots of fast cars, bad guys, good guys, great looking women, cool technology, and good storytelling based on basic staples of storytelling and it'll work. Leave the politics at the door -- it's a *fantasy* show about a *fantasy* car and its *fantasy* driver and that's what's going to make it a success.

"Keepin' it real" is going to sink it like a lead balloon. Hollywood needs to rediscover "lowbrow" fun without all the heaviness and pretentious tut-tutting. If they have fun with the show and don't take themselves too seriously, it'll run 10 seasons.

OIF Vet 2004:

Sounds like an OK concept for an Anti-Hero to me. Rambo was a jaded Vet and I loved that character. I was in Iraq so it's not a stretch to me that someone could come back jaded, hell, I'm jaded from all the defeatist leftist in America and probably wont be living in America anymore (I'm in Kuwait now and later will move to Thailand). I would like to see Knight Rider take on some radical Muslims planning a bomb attack and KITT likes wastes hordes of them because the anti-hero is having flashbacks, that would be awesome! Of course NBC wont do that so the show will probably suck big time. I re-watched a Knight Rider episode this year and it was soooo corny, some guy had a frisbee with razor blades glued to the edge to try to kill Michael, talk about a laughable show, if they repeat stuff like that it doesnt have a chance in the year 2008. Definetly needs lots of T&A, thats what the original had.

RSH:

Jediknight,

What is your problem? I grew up in the 80's and the show Knight Rider sucked! David Hassellhoff, you've got to be kidding me. What about Garth Knight? That show was as cheesy and campy as they get. And what's with the anti-American tirade like I'm going to use some guy on a TV show as a role model. Get a life...

CoCo Lopez:

Hector, you're obviously clueless. I support necessary wars. I support a plan and an execution of said plan THAT WORKS TOWARDS AN END. This war is longer in the tooth than WWII was! Jesus man, get some sense into your head. These soldiers have lives, families, all of the things that you and I enjoy... I'm just sick of seeing them linger in that hell hole so that sackless wonders like you can bow-up and act the patriot. Let's just get the damned job done shall we? The soldiers DID THEIR JOB... it's the politicians that are screwing the pooch. I can't support an incompetent.

I also have no idea why there is a need to HIDE the dead. Why can't media photograph the coffins of our fallen? Why is all of this treated as "out of sight, out of mind"? Who's going to remember these guys when it's all said and done? You Hector? I doubt it. You'll move onto the next Limbaugh talking point.

SilasSez:

Of course the guy has to be "jaded". He couldn't possibly be proud of what he did in Iraq by freeing people from a tyrant, or for bringing democracy and prosperity. He of course couldn't be proud of the service he volunteered for. If NBC wanted to stretch in envelop, they'd have made him a proud vet, there's nothing else like it on TV. Hope they have to pay their advertisers to advertise on their network...they're professional losers...maybe they ought to do a reality show with "jaded" advertisers or network executives...

Tim:

To C Carter:

You may be a vet, and I thank you very very very much for your service. But, you sir are no conservative or you would have a better understanding of war and history repeating it self.

Oh, and ArcherB:

Don't forget how the Dems tried to not allow the military vote in 2000 and 2004. Wonder why? Great post!

JEDIKNIGHT:

34% of American kids are born out of wedlock

50% divorce rate.

And the latest one, Americans are too stupid to manage personal budgets, and government will step in to help with mortgages.

If the shoe fits, wear it. I'm not anti-American. America was a miracle. Personal responsibility and unlimited achievement. More traditional and stable homes instead of broken homes.

Look around. Cultural decay has ripple effected into all aspects of life.

And you don't think that pop culture icons, TV, music, and movies play a part in shaping youth's minds? Fine, I guess it's no biggie for 5 year olds to see Debbie Does Dallas and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

CoCo Lopez:

Saddam was our tyrant. I'm a REAL CONSERVATIVE, not one of these neo-con Johnny Come Latelys. I watched Reagan and Bush prop Saddam up. I watched Donnie Rumsfeld go to Iraq to broker arms deals. Let's get something straight SilasSez, we're mopping up our own FUBAR!

Mike:

First off NO unit ever got wiped out by insurgents you f*cking clown. It sure is amusing how many people think they know what is in the best interest of the troops having never served.

Lmnop:

The movie seemed interesting to me until I read about the "jaded Iraq war veteran". What a way to ruin a show... I will not watch any propaganda shows that trash our country or troops.

SilasSez:

Chicken Hawk, The land you're from is Fantasy Land. You appease the terrorists and think you are not a target. Maybe your pathetic little country is not worth targeting yet, but believe me the islamist are for total world domination, your women will be in burka's soon enough and as ugly as they are, it'll be to the relief to the rest of us when they are covered up.

Algernon:

Chivalric. Make it chivalric, not postmodern. The name of the show suggests gallantry, chivalry and above all else good male role models. I hope the people writing this show don't try to twist it into something other than that. It won't last.

JEDIKNIGHT:

"CHICKEN HAWKS".

Ok, I see. So JOHN MCCAIN supports the war, the surge and favors a similar posture on Iran.

Will Liberals give McCain respect?

NO.

SilasSez:

CoCo Loco, You're right, we are ALWAYS to blame. I mean if you can't blame America first, who can you blame??

Timtan :

Okay....why do all the war vets since vietnam have to be embittered???? As I recall, there were loads of heroic people after WWII in movies, and they were portrayed as such. Why cant we go back to that? Cant Hollywood find something positive in all this??????

Algernon:

I wanna see the new KITT automatically open its doors for women when it senses them approaching. I wanna see KITT buckling down to bring its driver to the rescue of young damsels in distress. I wanna see KITT not be too cynical and jaded, rescuing its driver from driving over the brink while running over a bunch of hippies. Go KITT!

CoCo Lopez:

Yeesh Silas... you might want to investigate history one of these days... this way imbeciles like you won't damn us to repeating it.

Steve:

Only a bitter Iraq veteran? Come on you can do better than that. How about an evil republican politician.Or maybe a wicked oil company CEO. I know,KITT can be a hydrogen vehicle made of recycled McDonalds cup holders.Don't forget to include a nasty Christian or two for good measure. Keep it up guys. Don't forget to turn the lights out when the last viewer is gone.
Hey, remember all the money you network geniuses just gave back to your advertisers because no one is watching your fabulous programing? You better go get some more.
Keep up the good work,apparently like newspapers and network news you fellas are accountable to no one.You can drive your business into the ground and you just keep on going.Mind Boggling!!!!!

Mike:

What about the red moving light in the front of the car? I hope they have one on this one?

Mike:

A jaded iraq war veteran was the headline of this story. Not only is the show political but so is the author of this story. Why was that the headline? Liberals have runined this country with their political correctness and their lies. I will never watch this show just like I will never watch any show that takes a political side liberal or conservative.

Mike:

A jaded iraq war veteran was the headline of this story. Not only is the show political but so is the author of this story. Why was that the headline? Liberals have runined this country with their political correctness and their lies. I will never watch this show just like I will never watch any show that takes a political side liberal or conservative.

KneeJerkReaction:

Making Mike Tracer as a jaded (anti-)war vet is a sure fire way to poison the viewers even before its aired. If the American public wanted to see this kind of character then movies like Lions for Lambs, In the Valley of Elah, and Redacted. Would be box off smashes. Instead anti-war movies are ignored and avodied. If The Mike Tracer is an anti-war character, then any hopes of making this into a tv series is dead on arrival just like anti-war movies.

People watch tv shows, and go to movies to escape everday politics, not have it shoved down their throats.


Scott:

Two words. How stupid.

Lmnop:

Maybe KITT will save the planet from doom. I'm surprised Al Gore is not the new driver, then he could wage war on the evil USA.

SilasSez:

So CoCo Loco, as the master of all of the world's knowledge, how would you have handled the Iran-Iraq war?? I can only assume with your perfect 20-20 hindsight you would not have supported Saddam and would have let the Iranian's take over Iraq. Now THAT would have been a brilliant move on your part. You history revisionists twist history out of context to achieve your only goal....Blame America first and often. KMA

Timtan :

This show was lousy the first time around, and now they are remaking it to be even worse..... My god, these networks just blow my mind at how stupid they are.

Judging by most of the comments here, except for ding dong "chicken hawk"....the show will be political and they will even lose more money. I oh so love that!!!!!

CoCo Lopez:

Silas, the Iranians were never a threat to take over Iraq... BUT NOW THEY ARE. I would have let the animals over there KILL ONE ANOTHER. That's what I would have let them do. I would have ignored them and let them do what they've been doing for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. No instead we make ourselves a target and unite a CRAZED PEOPLES that have been SLAUGHTERING ONE ANOTHER in a hatred of us.

You're too stupid for further comment. I like my arabs the old fashioned way... MURDERING ONE ANOTHER.

Timtan :

Correction..... The show was lousy, EXCEPT for the little red light on the front of Kitt.... I did like that! It was the best part.....

I wonder if the new voice will also be arrogant and condescending. Also I hope that Hasselhoff's cameo isn't as Michael Knight but instead... GARTH KNIGHT! MUAHAHAH!

Timtan :

Rather than remaking this lousy show.....why dont they do a remake of Gilligans Island????? At least people liked that show, and it had a better story line!

River Veteran:

CoCO Lopez..... Iran never wanted to invade/take over Iraq..... Where do you get your information??? CNN Clinton News Network... Here is a little history for you...During the course of 1983, the Iranians would launch five major assaults along the Iraq front, none meeting with substantial success. Khomeini's position on a truce was unchanged. "There are no conditions. The only condition is that the regime in Baghdad must fall and must be replaced by an Islamic Republic... you are nothing but an arm chair QB

SilasSez:

CoCo Loco, gee, you must have forgotten your recent history. do you remember when we were attacked on our own soil by the islamists? We weren't in Iraq then and they still hated us and attacked anyway. You're an idiot if you think by burying our head in sand here that they'll just go on murdering each other and will leave us alone. Recent history proves otherwise. In the mean time, gfy.

timtan :

Okay...here is how the show will go... Michael Knight will be good looking...bodybuilder type....he will have a large breasted 21 yo at the control center that plays a genious giving him information, and Borat will be his commanding officer.

Doesnt that sound great?????

jack:

Sounds like they are introducing another anti amearicn movie/tv show


Also get a kick out of an earlier post by david. He He must be related to someone in Hollywood.

Freedom Vet:

Chris - so it takes "a whole unit" to be wiped out for it to matter to you?

Archer B. - saying "trust me" is 1st tell tale sign of a shyster. Please stop pretending you know what Al-Qaeda would like to see, you have zero idea - unless you're best pals with the Bin Laden's (who in the white house is family friends with them?)- enemies both foreign & domestic. Oh yeah - where'd Al-Qaeda come from? Let's not bother ourselves with facts. Bottom line - one must prove they're trustworthy - you certainly haven't. "Mission"? What mission? Define that for us please - bonus points for not changing it mid sentence. Blocking something & blowing it up are different - one's a restraint; the other destruction - sort of like the infrastructure of Iraq we're now funneling billions to rebuild as the $$ gets "lost" & hillsides of Afghanistan - made for good TV.

Support of our troops - do you wish to see soldiers safe & home? If so, you support the troops.
Support of an undeclared war (ie., occupation) - do you wish to see a "win" (unable to define what that is clearly) at all cost (except when it comes to your own life) & unable to clearly explain why we are there in the first place? If so, you support an undeclared war - ie., occupation.

That my friends is how you can support our troops & not a "mission" sent by an illegitimate president.

CRUSH:

"Jaded Iraq war veteran"...who writes this crap!
Oh, that's right, it's a TV movie. I think I'd rather see another episode of "Mr. Meaty" on NICK than watch that @%#$.

JimintheOC:

Just one more show I won't watch, not that I even allow the TV to be turned to the Nobody But Clinton channel. Nor do I allow Anybody But Clinton or the Clinton News Network. That kinda narrows it down, but then I wouldn't even have a boob tube if I wasn't married with children.

Freedom Vet:

"SilasSez:

CoCo Loco, gee, you must have forgotten your recent history. do you remember when we were attacked on our own soil by the islamists? We weren't in Iraq then and they still hated us and attacked anyway."

SilasSez - um, excuse me - who attacked us? Almost all from....drum roll please...Saudi Arabia. Looks like you're the one who either didn't care to know or has forgotten your history.
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/092701hjpic.htm
http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

ArcherB:

Re: Coco Lopez

You are wrong when you say that this war has lasted longer than WWII. WWII was took a few years, but our troops were stationed in Germany, Japan and Italy for.... wait, they are STILL THERE!

The "war" in Iraq was over in a matter of days. Yes, the "Mission Accomplished" was accurate, Saddam was overthrown. That WAS the mission. Now we do the occupation thing until Iraq can support itself. Not to would be the same thing we did to Afghanistan in the '80's. We know how that turned out. Iraq would turn into Afghanistan with oil!

Of course, if pull our troops out of the former Axis countries tomorrow and still have troops in Iraq in 2068, then you'll have a point. I recommend that you save your post until then.

ArcherB:

Re: Freedom Vet.

I take it Vet stands for Veterinarian. You said:
"That my friends is how you can support our troops & not a "mission" sent by an illegitimate president."

That's all I need to know. The fact that you call Bush "illegitimate" tells me that you have a knack for ignoring the facts.

As for the rest of it... well, let's I'm sitting here in my chair with my BDU jacket thrown over the back of it. When I wear it, I look like a "Cav Sandwich" because of the large shields on both shoulders. If you were a true vet, you'd know exactly what that means.

SilasSez:

Freedom Vet, nice to hear the "progressive" talking points from you too. Go back and read my post. I didn't say Iraq attacked us, I said the islamists attacked us. It was an unprovoked attack by islamists. CoCo Loco was saying if we would have stayed at home the islamists wouldn't hate us now. They hated us before we attacked Saddam for violating the UN mandates he wasn't complying with. Had he complied, he and his spawn would be alive today. You might want to quit sipping your kool-aid when reading posts, its affecting your vision and cognitive processes...but don't let that get in the way of your hating Bush or blaming America first.

Freedom Vet:

"ArcherB:The "war" in Iraq was over in a matter of days. Yes, the "Mission Accomplished" was accurate, Saddam was overthrown. That WAS the mission. Now we do the occupation thing until Iraq can support itself."

Will you please tell that to the current president admin...all his "War Funding" stuff is bankrupting our country - we're currently debtors to our "enemies". What makes you think Iraq can;t support itself?

You're trying to justify this occupation around every gnarled corner - aren't you tired of the dance? Many people are trying to find reason to something that doesn't make sense & you're only repeating what you're told because you've placed faith into a system which you've fought for & believe still exists.

FreedomNeocon:

*sigh*

Knight Rider was such a cool old-school show.

Too bad these MORONS can't stop ruining the old fav's by injecting their pathetic liberal media template from viet-nam onto every damn thing.

The whole thing will probably will TANK, just like the other recent TURDS from hollywood that tried to infuse their anti-American views into popular culture, and otherwise successful franchises.

jack:

Ever get the feeling that some of these people have been getting their news from CNN, the major networks, and Rosie O'Donnell that they are surprised that there are opinions in America other than their own. Thank God for the Internet

J Williams:

Without regard to one's political position - conservative or communist - this is doomed to fail. Most TV movies look like they are made up by the camera operator during the filming process. Current-day remakes are universally disregarded by the viewing public. I hope NBC has a lot of money to rebate their sponsors when the ratings drop again.

Comtar:

Jaded could mean alot of things, alot of vets were "jaded" with Vietnam. Looking at Wikipedia, it says that Michael Knight was a soldier in Vietnam. So, perhaps I'm not 100% clear on the differences between the old and the new so far. Seems to be a modernized version of the original show...

I can understand why people are narcing on NBC, this last season of Heroes was annoying with the Illegal Immigrants and the Katrina victims, I was actually waiting for a Iraqi War vet, but I guess he's on Knight Rider.

But with all due respect for Knight Rider, both the new and old main characters were soldiers in the highest debatable war of that time period.

I'm just saying that alot of the best plots and shows of the early 80s had broken and battered Vietnam war veterans, some jaded, some broken, some came back better, some came back confused or unsure of themselves. Take Rambo, Murphy from Blue Thunder and a few dozen other characters. Have we really been so politicized we can't just enjoy a TV show?

Like Shatner said... "It's just a TV show!"

jack:

Freedom Vet: which presidential campaign are you working on?

BTDT:

This is crap. We are going to be stuck with this "new" version of the deranged vet for a while. Unfortunately Hollywood doesn't grasp the idea that most military personnel wanted to go to Iraq and Afghanistan, after their tours they want to return there to their platoons because of something called "friendship", a bond that transcends clubbing or partying. It is a sense of reality that you cannot comprehend unless you have been under fire, a dependence and responsibility on your fellow soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines that drugs and alcohol do not even come close to replicating. Hollywood deludes itself in a sea of mindlessness. You want to find out who you really are, come walk in my boots, come under fire from the bad guys. It will make LSD or Ecstasy seem like rock candy.

FreedomNeocon:

Sure a show can be a show...

But answer me this:

When is the last time a show featured a war vet who went to hell and back and came out with pride, and honor, greater sense of purpose, more self-worth, and feeling that their time spent in war was worthwhile and matters.

All these "war vets" that don't have any feelings, no love, no hate, no honor, no pride, just a 'who cares if i live or die or whatever happens' jadded-ness caused by the very real trauma of battle.

Nobody will deny the latter, but thats ALL WE SEE, and in many cases, perception is reality.

So I'll ask again... when will we see the former as the lead role in anything coming out of hollywierd

P.S. Thank GOD for the writers strike

jack:

j williams comment just might be the most intelligent comment of them all

Ian:

Just another example that Hollywood exists in a bubble. To them, all veterans all "victims" to be pitied.

I can tell you already that this show will not be a success.

lulu:

How does this whole message board go from an article about a tv show to a political hate board and comment on the Iraq war and soldiers??? Thanks Michael for pointing out what my first thoughts were! This is a TV show. And wow Guardian, how about taking a chill pill. The network are just trying to create a product they think will sell. And Reninaldi, as a German citizen I am taking personal offence. Keep your DH and get some humor. The only reason he WAS successful in Germany is BECAUSE Germans have a sense of humor and don't take themselves as serious as the people on this message board! And lastly, stop focusing on the freakin mention that the hero of this TV SHOW used to be a military personnell. How about some interest in KITT or the other characters? Get a grip you people!

C Carter:

what are you talking about btdt? the military mobilizes as a unit now - i went to iraq with my unit and came back with my unit. but you knew that right? right? and want to go back? why? while our borders are being ignored? seriously, why would i want to go back? F@#K iraq. lets take care of america and sit down and enjoy some damn knight rider so i can stop thinking about iraq.

Don Polson:

Re--the mentions of Bionic Woman, I tuned in to an episode cause my wife and I thought it might be an entertaining action/mystery/crime. Can't say, though, because the intro was a military tent recovery room (I guess) and the bad guy was a soldier in the bed with the sign "Welcome home hero", made of cardboard, appearing to have been made by a 6-year old with crayon. Yea, that was the one that went nuts and started killing everyone. Don't know where the plot went--might have been that the soldier was turned into some bizarro-robot-bloodthirsty-killing-machine but by then I was so screaming at the tv, the writers, the producers--would have physically beat the crap out of them if they had been in the same room--that my wife quickly changed the channel to a comedy. GET IT?

Freedom Vet:

jack - why, are you looking to hire?
I'm unaffiliated with any political party and/or campaign.

cadpipe:

So why does it have to be a Male Iraq War Vet, I think they missed their chance to capture the baywatch audience.....look they're running!

Dental Floss Tycoon:

Rambo - Jaded vet who becomes hero to conservatives.
Dirty Harry - Jaded cop who becomes hero to conservatives.

What is so f***ing wrong with being jaded?

G Wiz:

Here, I'll just save the lefties some time:


Haliburton
stolen election
mission accomplished
war for oil
chickenhawk
Diebold
9/11 inside job
Rumsfeld shook Saddam's hand
Abu Ghraib
PNAC
final throws
650,000 dead
wiretap
waterboard
Mary Cheney
1.2 million dead
Pat Tillman cover-up
bring it on
Osama on dialysis

jack:

Rambo and Dirty Harry worked for liberals. President Johnson and the city of San Francisco. Maybe that's why they were jaded.

Don DeVan:

Boycott GE products until the sell NBC and NBC ends up in the ash bin of history with the rest of the commie trash.

Bill:

If you're a flipping moron with s--t for brains you post ""If you're 20 and not a liberal, you don't have a heart. If you're 30 and not a Conservative, you don't have a brain.""

Johnny:

This is exactly why so many people only watch the Discovery Channel, Speed Channel and the History Channel

Scott:

Does anyone remember the original? Uh hello it sucked ass!!!

They should have used a BMW or Japanese car. Does anyone think a piece of shit mustang would be reliable enough to fight crime?

Thanks UAW for making the American car companies so pathetic.

Instead of Kitt they should call it crap!!!

Luke:

I will not be watching this show:
1) is a re-do. come up with something new.
2) seriously, do you anti-war, hate bush liberals need inject your politics into everything?
3) commercials every 5 minutes.
4) did I mention this show is a re-do?

stapler:

I was in the battle of Falluja in the fall of 04. No American units were wiped out. It was a rather one-sided affair although we did take some casualties. The insurgents were the ones who got "wiped out."

jeffsd:

of course now that television is influencing culture in this mater, there will now be real jaded iraq war vets where there were none before.

dan:

Holy christ people. You're all far too paranoid. It's KNIGHT RIDER, the latest remake of the week. If it's good then cool and if it sucks then you can all go back to arguing about politics.

shut up and leave your Hasslehoff towels at the door

KK:

Wouldn't dare use a Vette...18 yr olds wouldn't watch, why drive a C-6 when you can drive a Shi_stang.

John:

G Wiz: How on Earth did you forget... QUAGMIRE?!

Let's save the libs more time. They have a lot of bumper stickers to go through.

Bush lied people died
Cheney the draft dodger
Tax cuts for the rich
Way to go, Brownie

Oh yeah, how about:

Saddam has WMDs - Bill Clinton
Pres Bush is right about Iraq - Bill Clinton
I wish I had bigger socks - Sandy Berger
I support enforcing UN resolution - Hillary
YES on the war - Hillary
Draft.. ha! - Billy boy
A hole in the Cole? Where's Monica... - Billy Boy
No Military Uniforms in the White House - Hillary
Islamo Nazis killing us? What about the Polar Bears?! - Algore

John:

Bill,

"If you're not a liberal when you are 20 you have no heart. If you are still a liberal when you are 30 you have no head."

- Winston Churchill

BTDT:

C Carter. Correct, the US Army and the Marines do deploy as large force units. The US Army SF, Naval Special Warfare, and US Air Force deploy as platoons or as contributory personnel numbering from one to up to six personnel. These are often referred to as "force multipliers". A contributory force of one AF forward controller, one AF PJ, three SEALS, and several RECON Marines can multiply the effectiveness of one US Army squad in execution of a mission and therein lies the relationship.
I'm not refuting your desire to watch television, only questioning your desire to say "F&^%" Iraq. "Lets worry about our border". Son, there are no borders. Stop watching television and think outside the box. The wall didn't work in Berlin, are you that naive to think it will work here?

Awesome looking car. Much better than that toy HotWheels looking p.o.s. Firebird from the TV show.

Darren:

"Mike Tracer (Bruening), a 23-year-old ex-Army Ranger, whom Sarah hasn’t seen since he left home at 18. Having served in Iraq, Mike is now jaded and lost and initially resistant."

Wow! That is so original. Hollywood never portrays our troops in a negative or in a condescending manner.

Just like at films and TV shows like Born in the 4th of July, Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, MASH, Lions for Lambs, Redacted, In the Valley of Elah, etc.

Oh, wait....

walter:

How about instead a show about a tricked out Scion that helps his loveable but nerdy driver get over with all the hot "in crowd" chicks at his school, while dfending himfrom getting beaten upby the football team?
This show jumped the shark the minute a producer put down the bong and gave it any seroius thought. I'm going pub crawlin' with Hasselhoff if this one takes off.
But what scares me most is the number of people talking about whether the Mustang is cooler thasn the Firebird.

Joe:

I had been looking forward to watching this. . .but the "bitter Iraq vet" line has saved me two hours that I would have wanted back at the end of my life.

Would it be too much to ask the networks to just make shows with good stories and leave their politics at home?

somehow, 150 some posts into this, there's been about 4 coherent, intelligent thoughts split between sides and i think all of them came from vets. our problem isn't the poles of our ideals, people. it's the unproductive, misanthropic, cowardly and anonymous way in which we choose to express them -- through the veil of internet posting boards, blogs, etc.

75% of the information y'all cite comes from boards and comment sections and blogs just as unreliable as this.

the funny thing is, i have a brother-in-law who has served two or three tours in iraq. he and i don't agree on this political situation or the war. and hell yeah, we've talked about it. but you know what? we also drink beers together, talk about football and get along just fine. i'd never accuse him of baby killing and he'd never accuse me of being a communist pinko. BECAUSE NEITHER OF US ARE EITHER OF THOSE THINGS!

that's what america is SUPPOSED to be, you f'in morons. you should all be ashamed for your blind rallying and vitriolic rhetoric.

THIS WAS A POST ABOUT KNIGHT RIDER (which is going to suck by the way...)

seriously, most of you plain suck and are completely unqualified to even have an opinion at this point. yeah, you've abused your privileges that much. (and don't talk to me about freedom of speech. tvweek is under no civic or legal obligation to propagate your collective idiocy.)

except for the people who kept on topic. y'all are OK.

which was knight rider, by the way: a crappy show from the 80s which will now become a worse show from the 00s.

thanks for dragging me -- and the rest of the country -- down with your pointless, counterproductive discourse.

love,

traw west

Craig:

Not a fan of the new car. I wish GM or Chrysler paid the money to put their product in the show. Would love to see the new Camero or a Viper as KITT. Would fit with the prior Firebird version. I guess I am too nostalgic :) I like the idea of keeping the original characters and storyline intact. Sticking with "canon" has helped other shows do well.

I am a conservative, but I do not see a problem with the story angel to date. Helps build a strong foundation for a character that you can write about in future episodes when you try to explore the main characters. A lot of the shows from the 80's used this and worked well. I loved Magnum PI, Simon & Simon, etc.

I wish people would stop making everything so political. Just enjoy the story and if you do not like it, do not watch it. What makes America great is that you can see the whole picture and make your own decisions...unlike other parts of the world. Embrace that. Don't be a hater :)

jack:

traw, wouldnt you be a lot happier in Massachuetts or San Francisco rather than Texas. I imagine your brother in law is mostly amused because he has fought for your right to be a pinko if you so choose. Just like a liberal to think you are smarter than everyone else but are mostly surprised someone has thoughts thst do not agree with yours. While some postings have gone off track more than not are on target. They concern whether or not we want a jaded veteran character on TV. As the writers are on strike this may get more airplay than it deserves

JRR:

Hey Bill....its really a shame that you are so uneducated to think that his quote was original....it was Winston Churchill....and for the Englishman claiming his country is safe because they are feeding them...thats bull, they have more cameras in London than any other place on earth....they call it the ring of steel...and unless you have forgotten...MI6/MI5 have broken up numerous active attempts within England....and when AQ successfully ousted the ruling party in Spain....they became a politcal power...and who did they sweep into power there??? the Liberal Socialists....humm....

JRR:

the reason for the mustang is....the new Mustang GT500KR will be the fastest production in the US in a few weeks....and the Super Snake version will be even faster....you'll start to hear about it...and even the new Challenger wont come close to it....so, the simple fact that they chose the fastest car....kinda makes sense from a simple performance standpoint...

Mopared:

Shape-shifting? Sounds like a warmed over episode of the 90's flaming turd "VIPER" show

Jaded non vet:

Um, for the people bashing Drudge Report, he does not write all the stories on his Web site. He only places the headlines and links. People are non-thinking and lame who blame Drudge for anything.

Jaded non vet:

Oh, now traw west is going to come riding in on his horse from the west and make sense of everything. Make sense of all the "dumb" people posting on this site. You are an idiot traw west.

DJH:

All of you whining and crying about those of us who have a problem with the 'jaded' Iraq war vet are clueless, but then you're probably liberals so that goes without saying.
The reason many of us have a problem with it is because every thing that comes from lala land is anti-Bush, anti-war or some form of screwed up or disenchanted vet who has been screwed by the government or the military in some way, ALWAYS!

And before you go running your mouths I served on active duty for 5.5 years and got out about a year after Desert Storm... you may continue with you non-sensical 'chickenhawk' garbage.

swing and a miss jack. i'm not even a pinko. i'm a registered republic, numbnut. i understand where you got that implication. i just happen to not support this war effort. because why should i? wtf do any of us, really, care about iraq or its citizens? the answer to that is you don't. the answer to that is you care a lot less about them than the administration cares about securing financial security for shadowy figures in america and around the globe for decades to come.

also, why do you think i live in texas? probably because i have a mustache and an accent.

for the record, i hate san francisco and the only thing that mass has going for it are the irish -- who are really fun drinking buddies.

and jaded, drudge did break the monica lewinsky scandal. so we can thank him for that.

lastly, the unit is my favorite show on television. so you can make of that what you will.

narcs.

K Tonnessen:

I was a part of this war and i'm glad I was. I'm happy we disposed a dictator and I will gladly spend the rest of my days fighting the known enemies of our Republic and those that voluntarily threaten us with weaponry real or imagined. That alone does it for me. Any other foreign governments that feel that they want to roll back democracy in the west, i say bring em on. This tv show will blow btw.

Mike:

That car looks too much like Barricade from Transformers.

Can we please shut up with the politics already? Yes, it's annoying that the producers always has to have some left-wing agenda but leave it alone. Can't we please have fun just making fun of this half-baked re-tread of a show?

Sammy:

I was in Ramadi not Faulluja and as far as I know no Army or Marine maneuver unit was "wiped out" in Iraq. Perhaps I could be mistaken but I doubt it. I am sure however that an entire Ranger "unit" (whatever that means? BN, CO, or PLT?) was never "wiped out".

What has been "wiped out" however is talent in Hollywood. Not only do they have to bring back Knight Rider but the jaded war Veteran as well.

The "writers" should feel pathetic about the fact that they are not capable of creating original substandard television programming.


Bob Fischer:

Hmmm. I see public opinion AGAINST the Iraq war is now up to 69%. SIXTY NINE PERCENT! So much for conservatives being the majority... Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, It looks like the chickens have come home to roost. The truth will out.

jack:

Traw West: I thought you only wanted to comment on Knight Rider. Since I haven't seen you how would I know you have an accent and a mustache. I swung but don't think I missed. As for the Unit, I heard James Brolin likes 24. Pinko

fraketyfrak:

once again proving that hollywood hasn't been able to create an original idea for years.

fire everyone. let me know when you can have an original thought, losers.

fraketyfrak:

@Bob Fischer: nice on-topic post, dumb ass.

jack:

Bob was that a CNN poll or did Katie Couric give you a call

David:

Wow Tom, Fox Noise, you are a deep thinker and very original. Retard

Guardian:

Hey Bob Fischer, don't you have the courage of your OWN convictions? If you're right, who cares what 69% think.

You lefties are so invested in group think, you need to have a belief that you are the majority.

I'd love to see the context to your 69% reply to what question because when asked if they want to win in Iraq, more than 69% of Americans say Yes.

Guardian:

Dear "david",

Wait till January and see if the IVAW puts out the ads I said are coming and if they hold their "Winter Soldier" hearings.

Then you and the rest of the Paulistinians can kiss my ass.

Guardian:

Dear "Freedom Vet",

Like I said to "david", wait and see and then pucker up and kiss my ass.

Right now on the IVAW dot org website, they're putting out the call for "Winter Soldier".

These pukes were mentored by David Cline and Bil Perry of VVAW, Kerry's buddies. Read Perry's Winetr Soldier tesitimony. Perry says he let his unit walk into an ambush. What a great guy.

And he mentored the current class of IVAW pukes to be like the VVAW traiors who smeared their own generation.

Bill:

For all of you Bush Lied People Died proponents, remember who it was that lied to Pres
Bush-the rapist, Bill Clinton and his merry bunch at the CIA and the UN, who stole $39 billion from Iraq, who in turn used hundreds of millions of dollars of Iraqi money to "investigate" themselves. One sap went to jail for them.

Guardian:

Hey lulu,

Bite me, but get your shots first and I want your blood test results.

Hollyweird trashed our best young men once, I won't allow them or a clueless twerp like you do it again.

You sleep soundly because others like them scrifice. You may be an ungrateful idiot, self centered bitch, but most people are not.

jack: i used to like 24. but then it got really terrible. but now tony is coming back. so i'm torn. authoritarian.

i'm still amused that you think i'm texan.

jack:

Has anyone seen a comment in favor of Knightrider. Looks to me we might all agree on one thing. Nobody is anxious to see this movie or tv series

jack:

Traw. I am glad Tony's coming back as well. Not sure how they are going to do it. Hope it is not a Bobby Ewing taking a shower as Pam sleeps. I think you are either from Texas or Oklahoma. It's the words you use and sentence structure. Not everyone uses y'all and moron and has an accent to boot.

jack:

Traw. I am glad Tony's coming back as well. Not sure how they are going to do it. Hope it is not a Bobby Ewing taking a shower as Pam sleeps. I think you are either from Texas or Oklahoma. It's the words you use and sentence structure. Not everyone uses y'all, moron, hell yeah and misanthropic and has an accent to boot.

This is the weirdest diatribe about a tv pilot when it's clear the network was afraid to order any more episodes.

And for Kevin67 who quoted "If you're 20 and not a liberal, you don't have a heart. If you're 30 and not a Conservative, you don't have a brain."

Kevin, if your over 60 and not a progessive, you didn't learn a thing about your heart or your brain.

CHuck:

If they want to make it successful why don't they have the hero be a Navy Seal or Army Ranger who loves his country and serves with pride. They won't because of their bias and the show wil flop.

Bob Fischer:

Au contraire, fraketyfrak,
I think It was quite on topic. Due to this innocuous article about an upcoming TV show being posted on Drudge, and the predictable right wing reaction to the plot line because it involves a jaded Iraq vet (as if there aren't any), the comments have turned into the typical "Pinko liberals are trying to lose Bush's war" idiocy, so I just chimed right in with some current statistics, and we all know how this administration and it's supporters hate those pesky things.

jack: good point on both fronts. it almost doesn't matter how they bring tony back. that show has jumped the shark so many times, what's another?

and knight rider -- aside from all the stupid, stapled on backstory that we're bickering about -- just looks terrible for many reasons that some folk have laid out before us.

jack:

Traw I would drink beer with you. Happy hour is not fun when everyone agree

Greg:

YAWN........ Next.....

jack:

Phrelin Progressive: L:beral who is running grom the terminology.

jack:

Knightrider is doomed by most everyone here. Lets discuss 24. Heard from unreliable source they were going to have a female President. Now that Hillary is sliding in the polls will they scrap that idea

getalife:

traw west just should not have the last word in any discussion.

RE 24: last i knew she was cast already. cherry jones or something.

i'm hoping like hell it regains some of its former glory. then again, with keifer a confirmed alkie serving a jail sentence and the writers not writing (not like they really wrote for that show the last two seasons anyway), it's probably not going to fare well.

hey, getalife: eat junk. and i don't mean garbage.

MIchael:

People people people, it is a TV show, they are doing what they can with out there top riders, so yeah it will most likely flop, but they are trying.

All you people saying go troops not go troops, if you all you who supported actually cared you would be complaining why not even fox is reporting on all the amazing stories from the troops, I don't see news stories, I don't see newspaper articles, I don't see anything anywhere about actual support or showing our men and women as heroes. if all you actually cared you would be complaining to fox, cnn, nbc, cbs and everyone else, hey we got guys and gals coming back everyday, have stories everyday every show, showing us our troops, telling us their story and sharing with us.

no one actually cares, and I understand why the troops are ticked off at our country, we all our a bunch of talk. Complain at the right people and for the right reason. oh we support, why because you have a sticker or a flag. if you want to support start asking for the right things, start making your own news, go to the bases, or the docks, meet these guys, when you see them when you are out and about, buy them food, buy them lunch, dinner or breakfast, actually do something and show you care rather than just complaining on a blog.

actions actions actions, show you care and stop talking, i am sick of both sides, both talk but neither does a damn about it.

Curt:

You conservatives are jumping to conclusions in just assuming that NBC's "bitter" and "jaded" Iraq War vet is being portrayed in a negative light. That's really unfair and uncalled for considering all the positive Iraq War stories and news reports that NBC has broadcast. Positive stories like...uhhh...let's see...hmmm.....Okay, what about all the positive news reports like that report on...hmmm...there's got to be one out there somewhere.....

Dave:

Hey Curt, That's the point. There is no positive reports coming from the biased media. Wise up, wise a**.

Curt:

Hey Dave, that WAS my point dumba**!

Freedom Vet:

re: "SilasSez:
Freedom Vet, nice to hear the "progressive" talking points from you too."

Please point out any talking points - facts are facts dear.

"Go back and read my post. I didn't say Iraq attacked us, I said the islamists attacked us."

Yes, followed by "We weren't in Iraq then and they still hated us and attacked anyway".

Wrong - we were in Iraq - we had no fly zones established and directly were supporting various factions there. We've been there for a LONG time - we just haven't had truth in advertising. Which brings up the question - why would you mention Iraq when talking about 9/11?

"It was an unprovoked attack by islamists. CoCo Loco was saying if we would have stayed at home the islamists wouldn't hate us now."

I don't agree with CoCo Lopez's views/assessments either - lost me with the bigoted "animals" comment.

"They hated us before we attacked Saddam for violating the UN mandates he wasn't complying with. Had he complied, he and his spawn would be alive today."

Let me look into my crystal ball now...it shows a different outlook than yours. It shows more accusations, Iraq trying to disprove a negative and eventual preemption of war - huh, who would've thought?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/oneill.bush/

"You might want to quit sipping your kool-aid when reading posts, its affecting your vision and cognitive processes...but don't let that get in the way of your hating Bush or blaming America first."

I don't drink Kool-Aid - only clean, clear water - you might want a good, long drink. America is so much more than Bush. I'm dissatisfied with what he's done with our government & consequently, our country - he's a criminal & should be held accountable. Unfortunately, those that have been in power have misused it & done things in our name which have come back to bite us (for a long time now). I hold all accountable who have helped cause these situations & perpetuate lies. There's enough blame to go around - it wouldn't benefit anyone to rank them on a list & I don't.

Politicians & Soldiers aren't gods - in fact, most soldiers I know are foul-mouthed, hard drinking, sex and/or violence focused guys that don't give a damn about your individual rights, freedoms & unconcerned with current political contexts. They're nice enough guys, most of the time, but not moral examples of heroes & gods.

Ryan:

The cars look cool...the plot sounds really stupid!! Another movie with a political agenda which I won't see. When will Hollywood learn that we just don't care what they think. Its like going to see the dentist...you're there for one reason only and not to hear what he/she thinks about politics. Hollywood needs to stop taking themselves seriously because no one else does. Actors are just big mouths who spend their lives pretending to be someone or something they are not.

Rick Clay:

I am a five year veteran of the Iraq War. I will have been in country on and off for the last five years this JAN. I have yet to meet a Jaded Iraqi war vet and I see many of Iraqi war vets every day since most of these solders, Marines, Sailors, Airman, Contractors and Dept. of State personnel have been here more than once. I can tell you this and I was a big Knight Rider fan, when I was growing up, and would have love to watch this remake of this show. The car looks wonderful and a Ford Mustang was right on! But because Hollywood wants to insult every Iraqi War vet I will not be watching nor will my three teenage kids who happen to be very proud of their not so Jaded Father. Good God Hollywood Magnum PI was successful because he made Vietnam war Vets look heroic and patriotic and look how long it ran and still has a huge following now. If they wanted this new Knight Rider to be successful then they would have portrayed him as a heroic and down to earth man looking to confront evil. Hollywood’s view of this war is not shared by most Americans and very little Iraqi War Vets. These writers should have gone on strike with their buddies on this one.

Freedom Vet:

Guardian - it's all distraction.

Freedom Vet:

re: "ArcherB:
That's all I need to know. The fact that you call Bush "illegitimate" tells me that you have a knack for ignoring the facts."

LOL - you must've been out of it during the 2000 & 2004 elections. probably from all that action during your tours or you just didn't pay attention to the political maneuvering.

"As for the rest of it... well, let's I'm sitting here in my chair with my BDU jacket thrown over the back of it. When I wear it, I look like a "Cav Sandwich" because of the large shields on both shoulders. If you were a true vet, you'd know exactly what that means."

sure, you can avoid questions asked if it makes you comfy.

Jason:

Doesn't anybody remember what happened after Vietnam? There were troops who had PTSD, there were soldiers who were jaded, and instead of acknowledging it, our culture chose to cast aside man such men and problems developed.

The fact is some troops from Iraq are jaded. Why can't they be portrayed? You all have to assume these conspiracy theories about Hollywood hating the war.

I opposed the war from the beginning (10 trillion dollars worth of oil under Iraq = war, it's that simple), but I support the surge now because we can't cut and run.

We should portray all Iraq troops as square-jawed well-integrated happy campers with all their limbs. That would be honest. That would tell it like is.

Sure.

Justin:

I didn't know NBC was still on the air...

Gern Blanston:

Some very good posts here. I side with veterans and active duty soldiers. Can anyone tell me how pulling out of Iraq at any point other then victory would be anything but an unmitigated disaster not only for the U.S. but for the World? Also, all the liberal posts that I have read on this sight have been totally lame and regurgitate same old lies. I'm just totally sick of those people and their elitist, Anti-American agenda. I don't expect the whole country to agree with me but at least present a plausible counter-argument. Going into Afghanistan and Iraq were correct courses of action because 20 years of not retaliating to coordinated terrorist strikes against the U.S. and its allies was not succeeding. You can't negotiate with people like Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot..you have to kill them.

Justy:

A bitter Iraq war vet...great. A novel idea, piss off 40% of your potential market just to score brownie points with moveon.org

I have another idea for you, why not make KITT green while you're at it. Have KITT not only be the color green, but run on vegetable oil too. A black KITT who runs on primitive fossil fuels is too 80's.

Great way to screw up a show that I was looking forward to.

The original KITT was converted to run on a hydrogen fuel cell back during the original run of the show. Bio-diesel would be a step backwards in so many ways.

That said, any lingering nostalgia I had for the series was dampened by "Knight Rider 2000", smothered by "Team Knight Rider", then beaten and left for dead by "Knight Rider 2010."

Joe Brownbag:

In Living Fear, Batman - Very Funny Stuff.

NBC don't need no stinking writers.
Even their custodial staff could easily come up with a choice pathetic comedy show loosely based on some of the above silly
partisan_paranoid_poli_tard commentary being spewed about over their one lousy fantasy made for tv movie alone.

It's Just A Pretend Car, Sheeple. (:

p.s...Red or Blue, y'all get to pick the stick with which to be beaten senseless with. ):

Isaac:

I know this isn't a war debate by any ways or means. But I would just like to say one thing. I am completely tired of this liberal BS. It's easy to say how it is or how it should be over there sitting in you living room eatting whatever you please. Why my brothers and sisters in arms are greatful to get any hot chow! The whole statement that this war is based on false pretense is complete jibber jabber. Read the reports on the intel that they collected from Saddam before his execution and then tell me that this war has no meaning. Pay attention to what the islamic radicals say in their messages not just to the U.S. but to all the free world. I know more than the average person about the intel out there and I'm tired of these statments that only lower my morale and my fellow servicemembers. The individual that said the U.S intel is complete hogwash basically, I can only laugh. If you only knew how much of our "bad" intel keeps you and your families safe you would not have said anything to the likings. No war should be needed but some are for reasons the simple minded like so many people are, will never understand.

Kenny:

They just don't get it . Another attempt to shove their " I hate Bush and America " views down our throats, Only this time they are not using washed up 60's reject actors like Robert Redford but a cute new car. I guess it will take the total meltdown of their network before they will finally realize that we don't watch television or go to movies to get a political indoctrination, We watch to be entertained. I guess these 60's potheads are grasping at the notion that this is their last chance to change the world to what they think it should look like and are throwing everything they have left in the tank to achieve that goal. Simply pathetic !!

Jeff of PA.:

It figures the idiots in Hollywood would make our troops look inept, by having the Star's Unit "wiped out" by insurgents. When will These people realize that beating up our troops doesn't make them cool, or even their "statement heard". Maybe they should bring back Fantasy Island.
And a Mustang replacing the Firebird? They will we need a tractor trailer to follow them around to just keep it running. just a little jab to ford fans, not meant maliciously;)

George:

I love reading all this, it's great entertainment to read all of these vents, but... does it really insult and hurt us that a Hollywood storyline has a simplistic two-dimensional cartoon character created by a writer who gets paid to appeal to the fee-paying public's thirst for espapist fantasy? Maybe Mike Tracer could have been a well-adjusted retail salesman instead of a jaded war vet, but where's the sexiness in that? Vets are cool, exotic and deadly. And he's got to be jaded, because as all formulaic Hollywood writers know, jaded means quiet, aloof and wary, which is even more cool, exotic and deadly.

While it may be true that many Hollywood executives are liberals, I suspect that promoting their political agenda is not their primary agenda. I suspect it may have more to do with making more money to take home and to impress their friends. And they make more money with a successful show (not much chance of that with this one, I agree - more proof that rich pampered people really do live inside a bubble of their own making). Obviously they think the jaded vet backstory will sell more ads than the happy retail salesman one.

Well, you have a way to make a difference. Rather than wasting time and revving up your political opposition by posting obscene rants (mostly just as cartoonish as the show, by the way - are any of you guys Hollywood executives?), just don't see the show, turn the screen off or switch to the PC. Read a book or walk in the woods, and tell everyone you know to do the same (especially those with a Nielsen box). If enough of you do it, the show will indeed fail, and the guy who paints a more sympathetic cartoon character more to your liking will make all the bucks. Money, that's what it's all about. He who dies with the most toys wins.

Proud Veteran:

Another great role model, "a bitter war veteran". Of course Hollywood wants our children to believe most war veterans are bitter; it fits with their adgenda.

CJM:

Treason Vet,oops freedom veterinarian,

The war isn't bankrupting the nation the 60+% of the budget spent on entitlements is, the 20% we spend on the military is constitutional, not welfare and entitlements. As for Hollywood and the networks, they are pathetic and the market will sort things out unless FreVet and their Ilk turn us into socialist state without a free capitalist economy.

CM:

I'll show my support for the troops by NOT watching this trashy rendering of a classic favorite. Actually, I hardly watch anything on NBS anyway for their faulty news coverage and disrespect for people serving our country.
Some of you folks have the same mantra and it's disgustingly sad. Please, get over yourselves and have heart - support the troops.

Roan:

So is this jaded war vet and his car going to Washington for revenge?

shocked Euro:

god you people are a bunch of retards. opposing an injust war is aiding and abetting the enemy? how about impeaching your administration for treason? or is the fact they lied you and the rest of the world into a war for oil not reason enough?

tim:

This is garbage. They can't come up with anything original any more. Just take what you fed us once before and re-heat and serve.

PS Jason, you are an idiot, crawl back under that rock you came out from.

John Lepone:

LOL, First comment is the best.

Unless it's on a 1/4 mile straightaway in 80 degree sunny weather...KITT is a grocery getter.

"Michael, I'm concerned about the storyline."

meh:

I think the hero should be an 18 year old heroin addict who's the son of a senator that used his politcal connections to stay out of the war. He ended up given a choice of driving KITT or prison after he killed a young family in a drunk driving accident. His female accomplice is a street walker prostitute that ran away from hom when she was 13 because her step-father sexually abused her. They are supported by a group of bankers trying to take over the country by subversive means. They go around blowing up gas stations and convenience stores and the monkey on the guys back is his constant need for his next heroin fix. He bucks the plans by aiding the CIA in trafficing large truck loads of 'fine china' across the mexican border using the "NAU superhighway" before the public knows it even exists.
Now THAT would make for a great Knight Rider especially with Will Arnet voicing the car under those circumstances!
Who needs writiers? NBC can have this premise - story lines would write themselves.

Greg Webber:

Wiped his unit out in Fallujah.These Hollywood idiots would'nt know anything about Fallujah or units.A person would have to be an inane,inept minded blithering idiot to watch any of this crap.

phil:

Does anyone remember Knight Rider 2000, when they threw kitt into a 58 chevy, then into a red modern trans am for the time. It still sucked and hassleholf starred in it. I think they wold have learned then there is only one Knight Rider

Sponkos:

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Bernard P. Reife:

12/13/07
"By Gregg Zoroya, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — A record number of soldiers — 109 — have killed themselves this year, according to Army statistics showing confirmed or suspected suicides."

DJH:

I see the tards still don't get it.
I'll try to type really slow for you all. We don't mind the occasional jaded, screwed up, murderous villain from the military... we do mind that every single character and story hollywood and the joke of a main stream media decide to tell is about a f'd up vet or a screwed up military, etc. It's called BALANCE and there isn't any in hollyweird or the freakin liberal media. They tell the stories that fit their agenda.

It is a fact that liberals and hollywood want this country to be 'more like Europe'. Well, that isn't the ideal this country was founded on and those of us who have fought and died for this country damn sure aren't about to just turn the cheek and take up the cause of socialism. If you want to be in a socialist country then move!

Shocked Euro - you're an idiot. I'm not surprised that some half wit twit socialist would try the same old tired, unfounded arguement based solely on stupidity and hate but... TREASON? Do you even know what it means? First and foremost, if Bush did in fact lie then so did Bill and Hill, Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Gore and about a hundred other democrats who all said Iraq and Hussein were dangerous and had WMD as late as 2002/2003. As far as the assertions from some morons, like the traitor Kerry who willingly lied to Congress in 1971 and urged other VN vets to lie too, that Bush cooked the intel and lied to them... well, then I'd say they're extremely poor senators (and I would argue that vehemently since Kerry and Kennedy have done nothing in their life times to warrant their existence) since many of them had access to the same intel. And lets not forget the dems on the Select CMTE for Intelligence who all agreed with the administrations conclusions, until it was politically expedient to change their tune.
Having said all of that, I wont spend too much time defending Bush. His attempt to run a politically correct war has been a disaster for our troops. This thing could have and should have been wrapped up in 2003 and we should only be in a support role at this point. And his attempts to shove amnesty for the illegal aliens that the vast majority of us in the country DO NOT WANT almost had me calling for impeachment.

If you're foolish enough to think you're getting the 'news' or the truth from ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC or even FOX then you might as well just read the idiots on Kos because it's nearly as accurate. The only way to really find out what the truth is is to speak to the guys on the ground (many of whom I know), watch the Military channel, and scour the net, because you are not getting anything but the bad news, filtered through a liberal lense, and nothing more.
I guarantee you none of you have seen the video of US troops standing guard, seemingly over nothing more than a brick wall, until the camera man holds the camera over his head to reveal 6-7 year old Iraqi girls playing on the other side of the wall with a troop in the background saying 'this is why we're here', or the picture of a soldier clutching a dead Iraqi child in his hands crying because some ignorant coward with his face covered up decided that killing women and children is a perfectly legitmiate way to fight since the actual soldiers are a little too tough for them, but then, that wouldn't fit into the MSM's agenda now would it?

JDW:

"wiped out my unit?" In Fallujah? My best buddy from highschool was in Fallujah in 2003. It was hell on earth for those boys and the town was basically flattened. But it was those "units" who did the flattening. The "insurgents", as so many softly refer to them, got their asses handed to them in Fallujah.

Buffalobill:

When did insurgents wipeout an army unit?

CJM:

Put it on PBS there might be a few thousand people to watch it. That way no company will have to waste their advertising dollars on it.

Euro, wake up and try getting your news and information from other sources other than the Left wing BBC. Our past administrations and the UN agreed to this action. So a few countries had the balls to take them up on it, and now the spineless pathetic cowards are now running away from their decisions. Including the Clintons, Gore, and Kerry.

Ed Feidt:

If they actually wanted to be accurate in the portrayal.... based on the overwelming majority of those returning from serving in Iraq, the guy would be shown as brave, proud, and sure if his purpose. Unlike most who sit in comfort provided by soldiers and degrade their service.

CJM:

Right on DJH, and thank you for serving!!!!!! My son is serving too.

Joes:

We don't want the Iraq war in our entertainment! Haven't these as*h*l*s figured that out yet? Hollywood morons...so disconnected.

Wow I feel Stupider for having read the comments here.

anyone who is bringing the politics of the war into this just stop talking.. you all are idiots. That little blurb is how the Studio packages the story. And that packaging is idiotic. They brought up Magnum here some one did.. and you see thats good. The key to the story about Magnum wasn't that he had bad Nam experiences but that was an aspect of the Thomas Magnum character. I support this war and some other wars that may come in the future (and if Iw as alive at the time I'd have supported Vietnam)but the way Magnum's Vietnam stuff was played into his character was GOOD writing.

When the fact he is a bitter Iraq war vet is how the network sells it.. they are pretty much sayin straight out "this is written with absolutely no talent whatsoever."

The Bitter vet, The Crazy Vet, the Addicted Vet, the way to gun ho crazy vet... these are stock stereotypes from the Vietnam war we've seen beaten into the ground over and over again. And for most folks who have cut our teeth on that type of drivel we want something new.

Like have him working on the project that makes these cars because he wants to pass the sense of dedication that made him sign up and go into the Iraq war, to help make the country Safer from crime.

Go against the tired Vet stereotypes in a way thats good for a character and I am in. This is some serious Horse Flop just with the little blurb the studio rolled out

JAD:

This guy says it best...

DaveP.:

Tell me again why the writer's strike is bad? When enemies of my country can get their best propaganda right here in the USA, why should I care if the producers of that propaganda are starving or getting evicted from their homes...

AMEN!!!!

Hugo:

Does the character really say if they had the Kitt car "the insurgents would never have wiped out my unit"!?

I'm sorry, but I must have missed the news that any U.S. units had been "wiped out" over there. Perhaps the character should be an NBC reporter who had become jaded after they realized that things were improving so much in Iraq.

josh:

WHY does he have to be an angry Iraq war vet? I was interested, but now I'll be sure NOT to watch this. God hollywood is dumb! It's such a cliche too. They think every single soldier who ever set foot in Iraq is messed up. This simply is not the case for the clear majority of these people. I'M OUT ON KNIGHTRIDER!!

Jerry:

I can assure you that NO Ranger is going to be "jaded" because he lost members of his unit... he might be sad and he will surely miss and honor his buddies, but he will NEVER be sad... I can say this because I know.....

Our attitude, when we were told about or read some left wing peice that told how the world thought we were nazi's or baby killers was... "F'em if they can't take a joke......"

I'm growing very tired of hollywood's attempt to portray soldiers as against the war effort or crazed insane nuts...... Nice agenda hollywood.....

F. Ross:

I'm a 48 year old reservist who voluntarily served twice in Iraq. Why would I want to see another piece of anti-American propaganda courtesy of the Hollywood left? By the way Hollywood, nobody in my family or even in my home town would want to see the piece of excrement. Get a clue! We want entertainment that doesn't offend us. We're not just flyover country, we're the part of the country that actually works and makes the country work. You're just here for our entertainment, not the other way around.

GIOIman:

KITT was never a mustang and where are the lights on the grill that signify KITT's voice... NBC can not get anything right, looks this movie will be a bunch of hype w/ little to no substance. The only reason the cobra is displayed on the grill is for advertising purpose. Lose the add space and put in some grill lights.

Larry Bernard:

People.... Don't focus on the offense of how Iraq war vets are treated... thats the least offensive part of this whole garbage. Whats the most offensive is how they made the character a one dimensional stereotype and are makin a remake of an 80s series even more shallow then the original

Jerry:

My memory may be fuzzy after almost 18 years in the Marines but I still can't recall what Army Ranger unit got wiped out in Fallujah! I'm sure my fellow brothers in arms would be quite surprised to hear that one of their units got wiped out and one of its survivors is now "jaded". When will the clowns in hollywood realize that this garbage doesn't sell except to the know nothing, do nothing left? Why don't they just write a few stories about hugging child molestors and giving them a second chance on life before they kill another child? Oh wait, that won't sell either!

Fred:

The original Night Rider was a re-visioning of the Lone Ranger with a talking car playing both the roles of Silver and Tonto. Get back to that basic premise, and you might have a show.

But make it fun to watch, not preachy or full of stupid technology/special effects for their own sake. It's story of the one man fighting for justice that we want to see, not a conflicted character lost in a world of murky grays. We want to see a hero who stands for the right against all that is wrong in the world, someone with absolute moral clarity.

Why will no one give us that on TV any more?

Larry Bernard:

-->But make it fun to watch, not preachy or full of stupid technology/special effects for their own sake. It's story of the one man fighting for justice that we want to see, not a conflicted character lost in a world of murky grays. We want to see a hero who stands for the right against all that is wrong in the world, someone with absolute moral clarity.

Why will no one give us that on TV any more?

YOU sir win. You know more about what Knight Rider is about then the folks behind the remake do. And thats what i hate. When people don't understand a project they are remaking. Thats why Michael Knight had a new name and new identity in the show just like the Lone Ranger.

So Lone Ranger/Remo Williams up the new guy hollywood

To all the rocket scientists out there commenting on the "anti-war" slant...


THE SHOW DOESN'T CLAIM THAT HIS WHOLE UNIT WAS WIPED OUT IN FALLUJAH.


The blurb about "if we only had shape shifting cars my unit wouldn't have been wiped out" was a JOKE put in there by the writer of the article.

Seriously... try to think before you speak. Emotional-reactionism doesn't do anyone any good.

I know you're all here because this story got linked on Drudge, but really... all it says is that he's a jaded war vet who's "lost". You're reading all kinds of crazy things into that. Wait to watch the show and THEN draw your conclusion.

Larry Bernard:

WATYF:

Dude you seen anything out of Hollywood in the last 20-30 years about a war vet (not from WWII). People are just reading the cliches we've seen in damned near every movie and tv show. AND since that was front in center in the blurb the studio put out... you just know he is going to talk about all the baby killing and baby raping he did in Iraq

We are conditioned to this response by the Garbage we have seen under this formula

Midwestern Electrician:

Another piece of crap remake... So boring hollywood, can't you make anything original??? Maybe if you rid yourself of your once hippie now old executives and take a chance on a new idea that your viewers might actually watch. TV/Moives/Music has become to corporate... It all sucks...


Hope you go bankrupt NBC


PS Thank you vets for your service to our beautiful country...

Inachu:

When will zionist stop stealing nativity figures?

Mike:

To Iraq veteran 'ss' - AGREED! But I'd settle for AQ just kidnapping some of the treasonous expletives - then watch what happens when the Hollyweird tightwads refuse to cough up the ransom money....

One would think that the "Nothing But Commies" network would have learned it's lesson from the reaction to their initial rejection to air the FreedomsWatch ad that thanked YOU for your service, (I do too!).

Timmy Lynd:

Actually, quite a few people will be watching, perhaps 69% of the potential audience. The same percentage that now DISAPPROVE of the Iraq war.

BoredWithTV:

Its sad that Hollywood cannot create a fresh TV show even with the writers working and has to recycle all the old ones from the seventies. I suppose Love Boat & Fantasy Island will be back soon too.

Chris:

The original Knight Rider was NOT campy in the least, it would help if these writers knew what they were writing ABOUT! Then again, that'd be like asking Hillary to give a straight answer, Dan Rather to produce real documents or the NY Times to write a story about real events!

Larry Bernard:

Timmy:

They haven't shown up for the Anti-War movies.. they won't show up for the TV show.

The reasons they have not shown up.. let me show them to you

#1) poor Plot: The plots are usually ham handed. The devices needed to get into the anti-war message beaten upside your head with the subtlety and grace of a sledge hammer.The point of the writing was to "stick it to Bush" not to tell a really good story. Thats why they failed.
#2) Why get the milk when you got a cow at home. News media pumps a lot of garbage about the Iraq war into people's homes free of charge. Why would people pay to see it.
#3) That number doesn't mean what you think it does. I fully supported going into Iraq. I fully support our staying in Iraq. And I fully disapprove of the Idiocy the white house has executed this policy in. While I am not going to say their are a lot of folks like me in that 69% I will say far more then you think
#4) they are shoehorning it onto a Lone Ranger Story. Do you want your lone ranger to be a crazy war vet.. I know I don't
#5) people are really tired of Post Modern shades of gray bs storytelling

Its a bad show. And they are using people like you who are thinking "Yeah screw chimpy mchitlerburton" to try to hide the fact it is really a terrible TV product

Dave L:

You think that the faililin NBC would learn somthing with 1 flop after another people do not want re makes they are Done Dave L Detroit

beowulf:

Why the "jaded Iraq War vet" approach? It's because these Hollywood artistic types never get out of their sheltered, perverted worlds long enough to see what the real America is like, that's why. Americans love and respect their millitary men. Funny, you never see a "jaded Bosnian War Vet" who was angered for droppping bombs on civilians during the Clinton years....no, those wars are good wars, they were ran by Democrats like Clinton.

typical Liberal Hollywood trash...

Roger:

I have a great idea... how about a show based on mom, apple pie and Americana? An optimistic veteran, who loves his country, comes home to help Homeland security track down terrorist cells whose members have crossed over our Southern border. I'd watch a patriotic show based on uniquely American values and traditions. Maybe our hero's motto could be "Taking the war to the extremists". I could solve Hollywood's problem overnight without all their focus groups and think tanks. Just promote people who love their country and are not afriad of being politically incorrect or seeming insensitive. Why is it a sin to do what's best for our country because in the end, what's best for our country is what's best for the world.

Larry Bernard:

beowulf:

Actually only thin featuring a Bosnian Vet was that movie Redford was in here he plays the General sent to prison for trying to do the right thing in Rwanda and getting tons of people killed. He did that because he sat by on a UN mission and watched the evil serbs kill the poor bosnian Muslims

IaDrang:

The original Knight Rider show was Crap. The new one will be Crap, too, with or without a jaded Iraq war vet.

Larry Bernard:

Roger:

you mean a show about actual Heroes... I mean it isn't like that formula has helped NBC out

jack:

Would it be too much to ask to use a proud decorated hero of the SEALS, Rangers, Special Forces, or Marines. He could then call on an old team mate to help out every now and then. Someone who would think of America in a good light.

Larry Bernard:

Also... can a dude just be a grunt infantryman?

The Entertainment Industry just doesn't get it! The "anti-hero" is dead.
The "America is the root of all evil" movie is dead.

Americans are getting sick and tired of being told that they are responsible for all of the world's ills.

Jaded Iraq veteran my ass! I'll bet the neo-communist morons who wrote this drivel have never been within a hundred yards of a veteran of any war.

Charlie:

I got an idea, ill repeat everything that has already been posted on the comments to try to make a point.

Why the"jaded iraq war vet" approach?
Why the"jaded iraq war vet" approach?
Why the"jaded iraq war vet" approach?
Why the"jaded iraq war vet" approach?
Why the"jaded iraq war vet" approach?
Why the"jaded iraq war vet" approach?

you know what, you didnt get an answer yet. so maybe, just maybe, you wont get an answer...

so why even ask the stupid ass question?

get over it, if you hate it so much, and think its so horrible, then why look at the page and troll the comments?

If you dont like it, dont read about it.

if you are interested, at least give them a few minutes of your time when it premieres before you start blasting a show no one has seen yet.

get a freaking life already. Im so sick of the way people act like idiots on the internet just because they can.

shut the fuck up and show some manners. its people like you that make me ashamed im american.

you sound just like the news media that you say you hate.

Larry Bernard:

What Rufus said

it is why The 400 and Transformers beat expectations. They were movies that were about heroism and virtue. We are very tired of the Morally grey bullcrap Hollywood has put into everything since the 70s. Its why the Soprano's did so well. Tony wasn't an Anti-Hero he was a very bad guy. He gave us the Moral Clarity we wanted

JDW:

Mustangs suck. American cars suck. And the UAW absolutely sucks. Breakup the union and I'll buy American again. If KITT were a friggin lime green Toyota Camry, maybe I'd watch considering Japan has created more jobs IN AMERICA FOR AMERICANS than detroit. Their cars are simply better and their trucks are catching up to Ford, Chevy and Dodge. Moreover, Japan is a better American ally than the American left ever hoped to be. Never in my life would I have imagined saying "buy Japanese", but after that fiasco where the UAW refused parking to a reservists (old story linked below)?...f'em

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2005/03/is_the_uaw_anti.html

David King, Huntsville Alabama:

I hope the movie shows people spitting on this Iraq vet guy.These baby rapers deserve our anger and disgust.Rudy in '08'

Posted by Gaurdian2 | December 12, 2007 1:45 PM

I am sitting on the military base that I work at, with a contingent of marines standing behind me reading this.........and let's just say...you are lucky you have the anonymity of a computer behind which to spout your hateful garbage...these men are courageous, honorable, and good hearted, and your vitriolic comment, shows that you know nothing about the heart that beats within the chest of the American soldier.

Larry Bernard:

Charlie:

well you see we are an audience. We are an audience that has seen tons of BS "Jaded veteran"/"Crazy Veteran"/Nonsense out of our films.

Best portrait of a Vietnam Vet I've seen in movies recently Forest Gump. Gum Didn't judge any of the events he was a part of but communicated the truth of the events and the character

Good Writing and Good storytelling means they didn't have to sell forest gump as a story about vietnam, aids, and disaster they sold it because it was a good story

By talking about the Jaded Iraq War vet we know the story is garbage

wanna throw an anti-War spin on this. It is a retelling of the lone ranger. We have a Wounded Vet getting miraculous surgery/nanotech repair by the Knight foundation and he uses that as his motivation to use the Robot car to fight crimes

then they wouldn't need to sell Jaded Iraq war vet.. then it would be a good story and a truthful retellin of the original Knight rider

willy39:

Hey chickenhawk...take your food and kindness and drive it into the mountains of Pakistan and see how well it works. Bet you ain't got the balls. Thanks to Pres. Bush and the "jaded soldiers", you could take it into most of Iraq or Afganistan today. You are more safe and over 50 million people are more free thanks again to Pres. Bush and those soldiers. 600,000 Iraqis killed? You bought that lie? What an idiot.

Freedom is never free. I served six years in the Vietnam war and my only regret is that, thanks to people like Hanoi Jane and Traitor Kerry, I didn't get to finish the job I went to do. They killed over three million people.

jack:

Charlie says he is ashamed to be an American. Why doesn't he move. Alec Baldwin even swore he would move if Bush were reelected but he hasn't. Charlie I am sure plenty of the writers here would be more than glad to help you pack

Larry Bernard:

Jack: actual Writers are on here? how does horseflop like this get into a TV script.. the writing is simply terrible. and as Fluffy as 80s television was characters seem a site better rounded then the average show today

Watney:

Guys, it's a TV show. It isn't real. Relax. Nobody's gonna make you watch it if you don't want. Go do something else if you're not interested.

Larry Bernard:

Watney: you see here is the problem with a lot of people out there today. BAD tv and movies get made because people in advance don't say "hey wait a minute"

Now lets say this does well enough but some one from the show reads some of the comments. An eventual Knight Rider series may have some of the BS written out

George:

Just think about the money - nobody making these crappy TV shows cares about the message, only the money. So they got the message wrong, boo hoo. Can anyone really name a single TV show that was realistic, fair and balanced and yet still fun to watch?

Larry... no, you don't "know he is going to talk about all the baby killing and baby raping he did in Iraq". You're assuming it. Like I said, wait to watch the show THEN draw conclusion.

People making "100% sure" claims based on pure assumption is what's turning the US political climate into worthless bulls#@t (from BOTH sides, btw).

Voice of reason:

I am getting tired of hearing folks Parrot lies such as this gem "Actually, quite a few people will be watching, perhaps 69% of the potential audience. The same percentage that now DISAPPROVE of the Iraq war." ..... I bet if the polster asked "How many people don't want to go to work?", or "How many people like to discipline their children?" The numbers would be the same or higher, and yet these things are also necessary. Also, if I were asked if I was happy with Pres. Bush's job performance, I would also say "no". But this is because he tried to give away American jobs and Citizenship to people that swarmed our borders illegaly, don't want to learn our language and are only loyal to a foreign government. But this does not mean that I will vote Democratic, or that I agree with leftist ideas.

Larry Bernard:

WATYF:

Dude I hate to tell you while SOMETIMES you can't tell a bok by its cover there are many many other times you can. The Jaded Vet line in how the studio sells it shows a tin ear and also shows its a major part of the production.

Thats how I know its all about baby rape

98% of all statistics are made up on the spot by the people who quote them...

:)

liberal whacko:

I don't get it, how come conservatives get to use all the great patriotic insults? I think Liberals should call them "the "C" word", or say they're anti-American because they want to be like the Napoleonic Empire. People who want to own guns should go back to Switzerland where they belong. People who believe that freedom is more important than justice should go back to Nigeria. People who want to impose the religious Right to Life on women should move back to Saudi Arabia.

It's time these namby-pamby liberals stood up for themselves and grabbed the flag - after all, half of the signers of the declaration of independence were liberals, and more than 10% of them were immigrants! The rest were just plain overseas born Englishmen committing treason for what they thought was a just cause.

Lots of liberals have died proudly for their country, they just are a bit more choosy about which wars to support, and like to question what the government tells them - I call that freedom, and I'll fight for it.

Nobody's talking about Afghanistan - now THAT was a just war. I realize it's not fun to agree on anything, much easier to insult anyone who does not agree that I AM ALWAYS RIGHT (which of course I am).

Back to Hollywood bias - can't we just accelerate the San Andreas fault a bit? Start a moviemaking culture in Pocatello? I want the world to be perfect, according to me - enough of this catering to other points of view!

Fritz:

Whacko, why do not you to Switzerland come and see how a society that is peace loving works really? You Americans so quick are to condemn others about you know nothing.

Voice of reason:

Iraq is an unjust war because you and your lefty buddies say it is? Let me clue you in: Iraq invaded Kuwait, and we liberated them. We stopped the war on the condition that Iraq disarm and allow inspectors in to verify this. 13 years passes by and all we got were threats, our aircraft being lit up or shot at, and yet the inspectors were not allowed complete unrestricted access to the country. Like Iran we finally figured out that we were only going to get delays and lip service from Iraq. Meanwhile our intelligence, the worlds intelligence and bravado coming from the Iraq leader himself implied that he had not destroyed his WMD, but would use them on our soldiers or other countries in the region if we dared to set foot in his country. The Democrats voted to support this attack as well as about 80% of the US population at the time. But then a few political nutcases, thought they could change people's minds if they repeated a lie enough times, and public opinion would turn against Bush. They figured that since they did it in Vietnam, it would work again. But they do not control the airwaves anymore, and people truely can question what they are being fed. You libs that think you are original thinkers, but are really just puppets repeating the lies of your masters.

Voice of reason:

I meant 13 UN Resolutions. My bad.

Freedom Vet:

re: "CJM:

Treason Vet,oops freedom veterinarian,"

c'mon now - you can do better than that, can't you? Baseless & shallow - I'm very glad you won't be writing for this show.

"The war isn't bankrupting the nation the 60+% of the budget spent on entitlements is, the 20% we spend on the military is constitutional, not welfare and entitlements."


"As for Hollywood and the networks, they are pathetic and the market will sort things out unless FreVet and their Ilk turn us into socialist state without a free capitalist economy."

I agree, it's pretty pathetic but 'Hollywood' controls the market - they control what you see & when you see it. The "market", as you call it, is imaginary. I'm not a socialist; however, I do pay for, use & support functioning public roadways, public schools & education, public institutions (post office, library, etc.) & would support other functioning public funded programs which help the masses. Do you? If so, you could be considered a socialist too. I care about others - do you? If not, there's plenty of name calling to go around (which is how you started your comments here to me).

Pete:

I feel physically sick.

All the vehicles they have to choose from, and they choose one of the worst possible.

I'd have rather they put in a 1994 Ford Probe. At least it looks and handles better.

jack:

Perhaps the writers should all be fired. The studios could hire new non union writers Studios should set up a web site and ask for original scripts. Perhaps even one without the liberal bias.

Freedom Vet:

re: "CJM: "The war isn't bankrupting the nation the 60+% of the budget spent on entitlements is, the 20% we spend on the military is constitutional, not welfare and entitlements."

Perhaps the DOD budget is 20%; however, that only partially accounts for overall funding on military. You must take into account all funds funneled into other Departments which go to support the DOD/military efforts & you will find OVER 50% of our budget is spent on military efforts (Homeland Security, State Dept., International Assistance Programs, Dept. of Energy, etc.). Once you find & add up all the earmarks - it's mind boggling (just how they want to have it). And that doesn't even take into account this administrations various supplemental requests, discretionary spending we've become all to familiar with, along with our money being taken from the General Fund & black budgets - which aren't part of the budget - to support these efforts. We're embarking on a $9.2 TRILLION national debt this month - when you're unable to pay back your creditors, you're bankrupting your country. Take that w/ the plummeting dollar & oh yeah...everything is just fine because I tell myself so. Wake up.

The show will still probably suck but not hung up on the fact of the Made for TV character's background.


Thurston Last:

I have many friends and family that served in both the Afgani and Iraqi wars. Some died. Some lost limbs. Some came back in one piece. Some came back war-weary but proud of the job they've done while others came back jaded, frustrated about why they were there, but still proud to have served their country.

And I am proud of them all.

I support the war in Afganistan because they actually attacked us. Kicking the holy hell out of all those bastards that killed a lot of innocents makes sense. I was sold on that war, but somehow, the administration kind of blurred and confused Osama bin Laden with Saddam Hussein, and making Iraqis responsible for the WTC attacks, when it was actually al-Qaieda and the Saudis. The media lost focus on the Afgani war and pretty much made all war coverage Iraq-only, and that's kind of troubling. I would actually like to see more resources actually used to find every bastard responsible for the WTC attacks captured, imprisoned, and dealt with.

To those calling me out, I'm not a registered Democrat. Democrats are weak-minded, politically-correct weirdos always picking weak candidates for the presidency. John Kerry has no spine and that's why he lost. People want strength, even if that strength is from the people behind you, which is why Dubya won in 2004. I'm not impressed with any of the 2008 candidates either. Republicans are no better because they have a superiority complex thinking the government should do nothing (and yet wanting to serve in that government) and should basically keep a foothold on the world, despite not doing anything to help out other countries in similar situations as Iraq was in. Liberalism and conservatism are both flawed, and there's no real alternative to the two-party system, which is pathetic.

Wait, what were we talking about? A TV show? A new Knight Rider? It's still not going to work. But my curiousity factor will make me watch.

American Moderate:

Everyone shouting how liberal and antiwar NBC is needs to remember that NBC is owned by General Electric, one of the greatest profiteers from this war. Look past your own eyelids. On a personal note, I know veterans of this war, and the term "jaded" would certainly apply to all six of them. Ask a veteran how they feel about it, or join up and find out for yourself. Oh, and it isn't KITT unless it is a Pontiac:)

PS Before posting incendiary remarks, look up "jaded".

jaded
1 : fatigued by overwork : exhausted
2 : made dull, apathetic, or cynical by experience or by surfeit

Freedom Vet:

re: "jack:

Perhaps the writers should all be fired. The studios could hire new non union writers Studios should set up a web site and ask for original scripts. Perhaps even one without the liberal bias."

Very American of you - especially the part where you want to restrict people. You're a true Patriots poster boy!

jack:

Freedom Vet. what restriction. Surely you do not believe that you must belong to a union to work. The liberals have plenty of outlets so I do not see how they are restricted.

digdug:

I say let the character DEVELOP. All heroes go through a journey. They start off as an everyday guy that we the audience are supposed to identify with (Luke Skywalker, Rocky, Neo), and he achieves great things through incredible circumstance or by overcoming obstacles.

Sometimes the hero is unlikeable at first, but through his actions becomes the one we root for. (Taxi Driver, Rambo).

NBC chose this set of characteristics as an easy way to explain why their studly young guy would have any combat prowess, and to give his character some sort of obstacle (mental anguish, guilt, or whatever) to rise above and become the leading man. This whole "jaded Iraq vet" thing could be played two ways:

1. understated. It is just a chapter in his life and a way to explain his ass-kicking abilities. He can refer back to it every once in a while or as a way to bring new characters into the mix" oh this my buddy from _____, he served with me."

2. He is the reluctant hero who doesn't want to get involved because of some event overseas, and feels the only to redeem himself is through vigilante justice. Or in this case, it is through driving a Mustang and tapping hot ass while pining away for the absurdly hot scientist's daughter.

Looking at the blurb, I think it will be option 2, which is disappointing.

Could they have picked better? Sure, but this was the easiest path to choose that fit what they needed.

Having said all that... enjoy the cheese... if there is any to be had.

John Babbitist:

This comment section is great. Where can you find stupider people than Knight Rider fans and Dubya supporters?

Mindi Bunns:

The Firebird was one of the best looking, most powerful muscle cars of it's day, but today that title goes to the overwhelmingly successful retro Mustangs. They couldn't have made a better choice!

Larry Bernard:

Digdug: Or he could have flashbacks and talk about the secret black ops torture prison he worked at. You see if they were going with either option you ca me up with they wouldn't have to tease it as a jaded Iraq war vet. Their teasing that means its all about the raping of poor arab dead babies (that George Bush told him to rape)

Roger:

The car is fantastic! But, Trans-Am was indispensable to be KITT´s body. Why didn´t they use a newer Pontiac??? Why?! :C

Kenneth:

transformers really kicks buttox- and the ford pony can hold its own for 25+ years. but to make a car fight crime? didn't the batmobil ( with many makes and models ) kind of make the series and movies unique to modern times? update the ride- cool! but to make the show for todays gen- bring in the old A-Team with this transforming car- give the vets the credit they deserve! the Mission Impossable series kicked buttox in it's day, and so did the series for the 80's did well to, but to bring back nestolgia for Knight Rider, please, if a series is made, make sure that the show does not ruin itself by the way that todays gen does not understand old school 80's tv shows where and they will view it as "cheesy" and as a rip off from other old school ideas.

Trouble:

"like a guy in a $3 million robot car is going to get passed by a Scion, COME ON!!"

chad:

Good Luck to the Show. This however will not kill the mustang as many of you have said. The mustang is an American Muscle Car, tested through time. The movie/show may bomb, but that will not effect the mustang.

mike:

the trans am was rear wheel drive to. read a book

mike:

the trans am was rear wheel drive to. read a book

Winston Churchill:

kevin67:

"If you're 20 and not a liberal, you don't have a heart. If you're 30 and not a Conservative, you don't have a brain."

Uh, Kevin, if you're going to quote me, at least give me some credit. Oh, and it's conservative by 40 not 30.

jbelbute:

like the huge fan i was as a kid of knight rider, iam thrilled with this. i love the mustang car, but kitt as a trans am, was beautiffull, i really feel bad, its not the trans am no more or a pontiac. but i think its gonna be grat. i also heard there would be a new remake for the a-team, and cant wait especially for that one. is my favourite show of all time...

SCott:

Pete,

I an sorry you feel physically sick.
"All the vehicles they have to choose from, and they choose one of the worst possible."

Why was the Mustang the Worst Possable Choice?
it's the Most Popular Muscle Car on the Road today.

"I'd have rather they put in a 1994 Ford Probe. At least it looks and handles better."

Ummm Have you Driven a new Mustang?
I have taken mine to "VIR" Virginia International Raceway, it's a Euro Rally Track that is 3.5 miles and I kept up with BMW's in the turns and out ran them in the straights, I hit 145mph on the back straight and I run the 1/4 Mile in 12.8 seconds street trim.
http://youtube.com/2k05gt

Cherokeewolf:

Yeah Pete,

I would like to see you try to keep up with an "05" stock Mustang, in a "94" Ford Probe, mind you I do like the look of a Ford Probe, but it's nothing compared to a '65 much less an '07.

But if anybody ever seen that Knight Rider 2040 movie that had absolutely nothing to do with the show? Well that was a mustang, and I all ways would think it would be funny if Kitt would wake up and found it self in a mustang, and say... "you've put me in to a Ford!" Now mind you I am a ford man.

Oh by the way if any body has been paying attention "at all" to the news, the solders that are fighting are not the ones doing the torturing, it's the special opps who are in a foreign country in secret prisons doing the torture.

So be proud of our real solders and I don't think any body isn't, and hate the idiot who didn't spend the money at the start of the war on the trucks that would have saved so many solders lives when it counted. Plus the idiot who got us in to a war we never should have been in to start with. Now I know that the media can be miss leading, but what I noticed was that most of the deaths have accrued from Car bombs, and land minds! Killing both our solders and civilians. If you don't trust our media watch some british TV there a little more objective.

jeff peters:

hey im a huge knight rider fan,and i think the show will be awesome as long it is based on the original show,i was i lil worried where they went to a ford,i thought maybe the new concept camaro but the kr is kool,it has knight riders initials in it.hasselhoff needs to be in it for sure to get the show off well see on feb 17.like i said i think it will be great!

madmax:

Hey guy's guess what ? it's just a tv show not the nightly news !! The Bionic woman is cool , again just something to watch if you do'nt like it do'nt watch it.

The new mustang (hahaha ) I hardly think sales will suffer It's also featured in I'am legend, The Covenat ect... so I think the car is doing fine it's an american classic it's not going away.

Why so political people I just think now people younger than I'am will know what I'm talking about when I mention these show's and they are all on dvd by they way times do change. So what if they keep redoing shows some are good some not so good . They said the same thing about all of the Movies that have been commig otu as well. Transformers, Charlies angels, Spiderman, Batman yeah I do'nt think the movie bus. lost any cash on those.

So just enjoy the new intrest people by the way they are doing a movie of Speed racer and Get Smart too !!

shawn:

This should be the new Kitt... go to this wesite: http://www.celluloidandvinyl.com/2006/09/30/knight-rider-movie-poster/

Catacomb:

how do you go from a trans am to a mustang? that blows, big time!

The HOFF:

I LOVE IT!!!
MUSTANGS RULE!!
THE HOFF RULES!!

"GET ME DEVON!"

stangyang:

I love the car. I'll watch the show just for the Shelby.

I don't care if you are a liberal or a conservative, so long as whoever is in office is making or saving me money.

porter:

I think all those that are for the war are some coward ass hoes that should seek mental attention.. you can drink or smoke here tell the law says so, and you still defy it,but i under the age of 19yrs old, i've killed more then what a mounts to your family tree in four days time,some unarmed and wasi had to be done, some armed, so the hell with what you think......the mustang sucks and should be put as the new badit maybe, but defintly not knight rider. yu started out with a 87pontiac firebird, make a car or revape the old with new tricks, but dont mix up my shows and my cars. kids that never seen the show are picking the GM over the ford all day.... i dont think you guys research is way off and you did not one sevy to see what the fans wont. the firebird is not a plastic tub with a soft grill, and BS strips to help it look fast or intimidating, the firebird has no soft sides, and does more for the eye then the other. what grill? real movers dont smile and really needs no grill. you look at the demeaner, and you know i mean real bussiness, NO-TALK......ALL ADDITUDE....NOT A NERD WITH A GUN.!!|

Mike G.:

Love the original, not impressed with this new idea, esp. after Knight Rider 2000 (1991). Dukes of Hazzard, Starsky & Hutch, what's next...Fall Guy and Dallas?

No matter what, I will always love the original. One of my faves growing up in the 80's. "One Man Can Make a Difference."

Michael:

I thougth the car would of been the Pontiac Transam again, but the new Mustang Looks Hot. I love Knight Rider, I watch it back then and still till this very day. I even showed my 6 year old son the old ones. Now we can watch the New shows together. I hope everything goes good and it last for a couple of years. Good Luck

alex burton:

OMG you guys are taking this all waaaaaaay too seriously- when I was growing up here in the UK Knight rider was cool- we all wanted a KITT and now they have bought it back with an equally cool car- this is a kids/teens program with car chases and stunts ao lets not see it as some political statement about the guys in Iraq or indeed the war over there. We all support our guys who are out there and we all know that it is a war that should never have started but lets leave that to the news at 10 or cnn or whatever to discuss until blair and bush are tried for warcrimes after illegally invading another country!!!!! God Bless america!!!!

Phil K:

I said it before and I'll say it again-people are getting way too uptight about one throw-away line in a possibly forgettable made for TV sequel to a forgotten show.
I will say one thing-I notice conservatives always blame the media every time they repot soething they don't agree with. This, combined with denouncing as unpatriotic anyone who supports the troops but not the war, sounds suspiciously like a call for censorship. Doesn't sound much ike a defnese of freedom to me.
A few months ago there was an abortive attemtp to revive the Fariness Doctrine, which I agree is a bad idea. The idea was defeated, as it should have been, in the free marketplace of ideas. However, it was not defeated before we read a bunch of blogs accusing supporters of the doctrine of trying to establish a Communist dictatorship and all the liberal politicians of being secret admirers of Joe Stalin, which was complet nonsense and off the point.
I guess if you accuse the media of having a liberal bias you are defending freedom, if you accuse it of conservative bias you are a Communist.
A narrow vision of freedom, indeed.
For the record, I don't support the war but I also think we should not leave right away because we are doing a lot of good there, after all, helping refugees and victimns of the uinsurgents, etc.. Phased and reasonable withdrawal and orderly transition to a stable society there are what's needed.

For all the arguments about the anti-war spin, remaking old shows, etc... no one's brought up the fact that this is another Glen Larson show (at least, originally). I don't blame the Batman remake nearly as much as I do the Battlestar Galactica remake. And I believe the original Bionic Woman was also Larson. BG worked well, so I guess NBC thinks his other properties still have some life in them (apparently, Larson himself is now incapable of a new idea?). And like the BG remake, probably in the wake of shows like Smallville, they're trying to give all these shows we loved years ago not just a more contemporary look, but a "reality-grounded" basis for the otherwise fantastic story. The whole Iraq War vet angle is probably just there because it's part of the reality we live with - whether you think we should be over there or not.

That having been said, I refuse to watch the newer BG series just because I so much prefer the original's tone and cast. And at least Larson's somehow involved on that end. I haven't seen his name pop up once for this Knight Rider remake, and that worries me to no end. It seems like an entire change in overall theme to me. Like others have stated, the original show's whole theme was "one man CAN make a difference." I don't buy that this is going to be just one huge slap out our armed forces overseas (I could very easily be wrong), and there could be a connection there (the general sentiment I'm getting from people opposed to the war is that we're not actually DOING anything over there)... so one man comes home believing it was a waste of time only to learn the same thing Michael Knight learned. I could see it going that way. Otherwise this is just Hollywood's mindless way of falling back on what worked before because they don't have any good new ideas (if I see one more cop or doctor show, I'm gonna puke).

I do have to say that the Mustang thing threw me, though. KITT was originally a Pontiac... you'd think they'd have at least kept it in the family (Chevy, GM).

Atol:

I notice alot of people pouting. If anyone remember the last year mybe two of the Old knightrider. They made a another Knight rider after the show was off. With Hoff, Kitt, Deven Miles.

Kitt Was in a 1969 Car. I do remember the Colors. Light Blue and White. I beleave it was a convertable. Something happen and the 1950 car was totaled on the show. So they made some type of car you would see on race track.

http://www.kr2k.com/ Some info here

mark:

im looking forward to the new episodes of knight rider but it wont be the same without the trans am william danials.Anyway i cant wait to watch the new 2 hour pilot and series

Nolan:

I too am looking forward to seeing the movie! I grew up on Knight Rider and it will be interesting to see the new look. But I do agree with Mark that it won't be the same without the Trans Am! A Camaro would have been a nice alternative but the Shelby will do. God Bless America!

ActiveArmyGuy:

Hey its a god damn show either watch it or don't watch it but don't sit there and talk about me or my brothers and sisters in the service unless you've been there. You don't know what we go trough to let you sit there and talk all your shit.
But as for the show I'll watch it I love the stang and looks to be a pretty good story line. and again its a TV SHOW ITS NOT MADE TO CHANGE YOUR OUTLOOK ON LIFE LIFE.

vern:

listen I dont know if this is red daily but i have a thought about knight rider and how to really make it the future here it is he money shot pick up the new car the "skateboard" for knight rider in mid series the mustang is hot but actors actress have change of wardrobe why not a car and its drive by wire.think about it.

Check out this exclusive interview with the inventor of the new KITT light chaser. Has photos and video you won't find anywhere else!

http://www.musclecarblog.com/story-145-knight_rider_led_light_scanner_howd_they_do_it

Jake:

Alot of you guys are really immature complaining what car they chose for the show. Whats really sad is the fact that some of you idiots are saying things about the soldiers in Iraq and how they are "BABY RAPERS" were is the proof of THAT!!! that is just a rumor started by anti war fanatics to try and get people angry about the war.

personally though i think the show will be all right. And how can you go wrong with having a stock 5.4-liter, DOHC, 32-valve, 90-degree V-8 engine that comes stock with 540 horsepower, 510 lb.-ft. of torque (est.)
Roots-type Eaton supercharger and air-to-water intercooler
Iron block, Ford GT aluminum heads, dual exhaust
Tremec TR6060 6-speed manual transmission
Rear-wheel drive, 3.73:1 axle ratio; Traction Control. sitting on top a sweet chasis and a body that looks sweet for the new KITT.

but if you japanese lovin freaks arent satisfied with only540 ponys you can send the car for the super snake tune-up which will super charge your engine and race tune it by saleen for optimum preformance. once complete you can have more than 750hp ready to shread my back tires any time i feel like showing you stupid jap crap lovers what real power is.


Damany:

Am I the only one that thought that Knight Rider sucked majorly? I mean, I was a HUGE fan of the original series. I religiously watched it every Saturday (right between Airwolf and A-Team) and loved every turbo jumping, bullet deflecting, Mr Feeney voicing minute of it. And now we are left with this... This what, I'm not sure? It's full of bad acting and cliches with way too many obvious product placements to be taken seriously. The two hour movie event that is obviously going to become a series which no one will probably watch. I am saddened NBC, deeply saddened. Oh, and the obvious tie-in with Las Vegas (a la the Montecito Casino) was just sad. Where are the days of good shows just for the sake of good shows. I know we all fast forward past commercials, but is this really the answer? I must now go find past episodes on Alluc.org to make things all better...

LOUANN UMSCHEID:

PURPLE GAS

Amin Masters:

KITT Looks Too Barricade to Me...

No Turbo Boost...?

Barricade (in the TF movie) was a Dodge Charger. KITT was a Mustang. Incidentally, I think they should have kept it in the GM family. Not out of some silly legacy idea, but just because these things usually wind up involving exclusive deals with automobile manufacturers. Did anyone notice how even the bad guys drove Fords in this thing? For a two-hour movie, that was bad enough. After awhile, an entire series of bad guys driving Fords will get very old very fast. At least with GM, they'd have had Chevrolet, Pontiac and GMC's to work with. And this is coming from someone who knows next to nothing about cars.

I do agree about the Turbo Boost, though. But I keep thinking that with the current trend in series writing (to write full season arcs rather than to pen things episodically), that to start with a pretty much barebones KITT and work outward throughout a series could work. Like Smallville or Buffy. Actually, I'm seeing a LOT of potential for recurring shots from past KR alumni and past KR villians (seriously, how cool would it be to see the new KITT vs. the old KARR?)... Just with Larson were more involved ("executive producer" I'm not buying).

Kitsune Baka:

This show is a travesty. You don't remake Herby the Lovebug using a Scion Shoebox, you don't remake Dukes of Hazzard using a Porsche, so why butcher Knight Rider with that boxy bulldog Mustang? Don't get me wrong, the Mustang is nice, but does it fit the role of KITT? Hell no, not even close. This show is suicide on NBC's part because fans of the original are going to hate this from the get-go. The whole car looks like someone's crappy Photoshop. The functions are lame; 80's KITT's Turbo Jump and wall-crashing abilities are better than K3000's Google Search and Nanobots anyday. The dialogue was too PC for me, and I'm GHEY!. The "Maybe that's why 75% of marriages end in divorce" joke was unecessary, as were the lesbian cops. Westboro Baptist Church would probably have a field day with this show, lulz.

This would’ve made a way better KITT, if only NBC waited.
(Not photoshop, actual custom from Trans Am Nationals in Ohio)
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r243/kitsune_baka/KITT3.jpg

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