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Questions About Obama’s Birth: Issue That Won’t Die With CNN’s Lou Dobbs, Others

Jul 27, 2009  •  Post A Comment

Though the state of Hawaii has repeatedly confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in the state–and indeed, there is even a local Hawaiian newspaper notice of his birth a little over a week after he was born–a number of media commentators are still questioning whether or not Obama was born in Kenya, the New York Times reports.

The paper mentions Lou Dobbs of CNN as one of the commentators who have "said that Mr. Obama should do more to dispel the claims" that he was not born in this country.

Chuck Ross

 

24 Comments

  1. chuck Ross, get it right, the state of Hawaii has never said that Obama was born in Hawaii only that his birth certificate is on file, the same type of certificate that his sister has Maya, and she was born in Indonesia in 1970, Get it right Chuck, your suppose to be a professional. One question Chuck are you deliberatly trying to mislead the public by saying Hawaii officials say Obama was born in Hawaii or just ignorant of the facts? which is it?

  2. Chuck, lies, more lies.
    Hawaii never confirmed that he was born in Hawaii. If you look at their statement, they said that the paper work is in order in accordance of the laws of Hawaii (something to that effect). The local of his birth was left ambiguous. Hawaii law allowed for children born outside of the state to be registered for a COLB during the years BO was born.
    Actually, the local of his birth is irrelevant since he’s not a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution. To be natural born you must be born on US soil to two parents that are both citizens. This is the common definition at the time the Constitution was written. BO admits that his father was under British rule, and therefore so was BO at birth. Therefore, HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE POTUS. PERIOD.
    BO and his handlers are guilty of treason, and should be hanged on the White House lawn along with all the members from the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg group.

  3. Unfortuanately, Chuck represents the current state of journalism in the US.
    No independent research, thinking, or analysis.
    Parrots. They are all parrots!

  4. Obama is spending a lot of money to block his hospital long form birth certificate.
    Just show the form.
    Why continue with the legal moves to block the form…….

  5. Statements from CNN’s president and newspaper birth announcements are not conclusive proof of anything.
    Anyone who believes CNN’s president or thinks newspaper reporters investigate every birth and marriage announcement they print must believe in the tooth fairy.
    As one Aloha State reporter explained, “We don’t have an editor who handles birth and marriage announcements; we print what we receive from the Department of Health.”
    As to those who think McCain or Clinton’s team would have uncovered any wrongdoing—they were ‘Dan Rathered’ by a COLB.
    In spite of all the blather one question remains, “Why is Obama hiding his vault copy birth certificate and other documents from the public?”

  6. Maybe Chuck could have “calibrated” his words differently?

  7. I agree with Lou Dobbs. If Obama was born in America He should produce proof. By not doing so Obama is proving Dobbs’ right. Is it too much to ask the President of the USA to prove he was born here.
    Jan Williams

  8. This should end the debate:
    According to the 14th Amendment of the Constitution Section “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps BUT:
    Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:
    “Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
    The other conditions from section 1401 are listed below. If any of these conditions apply then you are a US NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Obama’s mother was from Kansas, so she me the time requirements in section 1401 allowing her son to become a US NATURAL BORN CITIZEN! It would not matter where he was born!!! Obama would not have been nominated for the position through the Democratic Party without going thru intense background checks and FYI he was a Senator before that. Don’t you think that it would have been caught way before now not to mention the Democratic Party would not risk the embarrassing themselves on such a BASIC requirement for presidency????? People before you start blabbing – do some research and educate yourself!!!!!
    See the other conditions from Title 8, of the US Code Section 1401:
    The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.
    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
    Anyone born inside the United States *
    Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
    Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
    Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
    Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
    FYI: It was possible to have duel citizenship and give up one. So Obama may have had both and gave up his British citizenship. Either way under Title 8, Section 1404 he is a US NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

  9. What gets me is the sheer dishonesty of this whole ordeal. Everyone knows what a birth certificate looks like. Birth certificates have hospital and attending physician names on them. Further, no court has examined the document provided by Obama as proof of his birth place. It is so obvious to any objective person that this matter needs to be resolved in the courts. And dismissals without comment do not count. That is the equivalent of the government sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting to the People, “WE DON’T HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOU!” If that is the case, we can kiss our free society goodbye.

  10. These birther people are just crazy. Why are there so many ignorant people in this country willing to hang on to something no matter what evidence they get. If we were able to bring Obama’s mother and grandmother back from the dead to tell about his birth, they’d still not believe it. Why? Because their crazy and hateful.

  11. The “birther brigade” must be busy patroling the Net looking to post their nonsense anywhere they can. Somehow I doubt that they are regular readers of TV Week. The only certificate which should be of interest here is the one documenting the fact that these people are certifiably insane, given their inability to distinguish reality from fantasy. Mr. Dobbs has thrown his credibility out the window by encouraging these Lou-natics. If CNN doesn’t rein him in, its credibility will be seriously damaged. What next, people claiming that Obama wasn’t born on Earth, but is an alien sent to take over the planet?

  12. This is a direct order. No one here is to pay any attention to the last comment here by one Steve Nelson. He is just trying to point out the similarities between Obama and Michael Rennie in “The Day The Earth Stood Still” , like the striking resemblance and the fact that Obama spelled backwards is Amabo which was the edited out original name of Gort’s brother as well as the word for leader and was also edited out of the Klaatu barada nikto scene. Nelson’s days of freedom are numbered. We will apprehend him soon and then these silly rumors will cease.

  13. Forget the birth certificate. The real issue is that regardless of where he was born, Obama is ineligible simply because he possessed Kenyan/British citizenship at birth thru his father. Read what Vattel said in “The Law of Nations.” Vattel was very influential in the early United States, and he makes clear that if someone’s father is not a citizen then the child cannot be natural born. Also see the U.S. Supreme Court discussions in The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 289 (1814) and also Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 21 Wall. 167-168 (1874).
    This isn’t a matter of conspiracy or speculation; it’s simply a matter of historical legal fact.
    Attorneys Leo Donofrio and Mario Apuzzo are good sources on this particular argument.

  14. Nick, just read your comment. Your statament contradicts section 1401 of title 8 of the US code which, defines the US legal code of who is and isn’t a naturalized citizen. The US code makes it very clear that even if born abroad, a child born of a mother who is an American citizen and a father who is not an American citizen is in most cases an American citizen.
    Not sure what about the supreme court caes you cite, but unless the supreme court has struck down section 1401 of title 8 of the US code then whatever it is you’re citing probably has no bearing and has nothing to with much of anything except your ranting

  15. Few in the MSM or even among Republicans and conservatives are addressing the simple question.
    Where is the original document? That’s the question.
    There are lots of sightings of an Obama birth certificate. There are lots of reports that it really, really exists (kinda like Bigfoot or UFO sightings or psychic powers) …but no one claims to have seen the original document.
    Every fallacy you can think of has been used to address that question…w/o actually answering the question. Burden of Proof fallacy. (The questioners of a claim made by Obama and his supporters aren’t required to provide the proof.) Appeal to Ridicule. Appeal to Authority. Appeal to Popularity, ad infinitum.
    But there’s still no original document to be found.
    Where is the original document? Why is that such a difficult question to understand or to answer? An honest answer is either: ‘I dunno.’ or ‘It’s located in building so and so and in file drawer such and such.’ An ad in a newspaper isn’t an original document. Blanket assertions by politicians and bureaucrats aren’t an original document. What McCain and Clinton did or didn’t do is not an original document.

  16. you’re confusing naturalized and natural born. specifically, naturalized citizens are not considered to be natural born citizens and are ineligible for POTUS.

  17. it’s pathetic how we allow this imposter president to run without any scientific proof that the man was born here
    Are we afraid to ask because he is black so questionning him is ‘racist’?
    Go ‘birthers’!

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